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		<title>imported&gt;BillDickinson: Last updated at: 2010-07-28 20:08:59 By user: BillDickinson</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Last updated at: 2010-07-28 20:08:59 By user: BillDickinson&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I am an ontology &amp;quot;newbie&amp;quot; (a term I detest but it's probably appropriate in this context - gotta start somewhere I guess).  My initial introduction to ontologies was a course I took at the '''University of Manchester''' (taught by Dr. Robert Stevens) as part of an MSc program in Bioinformatics (now called Computational Molecular Biology).  I developed a Hearing Loss Ontology for my thesis and realized very early that narrowing the scope to representing only gene variants &amp;quot;associated&amp;quot; with hearing loss was a starting point that I could not finish because:  &lt;br /&gt;
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''I could not, using OWL, figure out a concise way to explicitly model cause and effect, e.g, in the context of genetic variants, how to  infer (via a reasoner) a specific phenotype change given a specific coding variation in a gene - even without knowing the cascade of physical and physiological changes occurring on many scales from nucleotide to hair cell. Subsumption just didn't seem to be the appropriate relationship.  I was looking for a &amp;quot;Causes&amp;quot; relationship.''  &lt;br /&gt;
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The topic of cause and effect appears to be quite controversial - there's event calculus, situational calculus, Granger causality, structural, statistical, and probabilistic approaches to modeling cause, effect and inference (and Pearl's unification of many of these in a graphical approach), and more, but all I wanted to do was associate two entities on opposite ends of the gene expression pathway by a simple &amp;quot;if A then B&amp;quot; construct I am so accustomed to in software development.  Probably a bit naive.  I'd worry about modeling all the stuff that happens from A to B later.  &lt;br /&gt;
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''Even if I could produce an &amp;quot;if A then B&amp;quot; construct in OWL and have an existing reasoner understand the construct, existing tools could not distinguish (and thus appropriately render) a causal relationship from a general inference.''  &lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, I look forward to solving this problem!  It may take a while, but in the mean time, I hope to learn from the experts in this group and to contribute where I can when I can.  &lt;br /&gt;
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