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= [ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-08-18 =

=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details ===

* Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-08-18

* Agenda Comments:
** ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
** please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|[[WebDAV]]] upload] prior to the meeting
** VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
*** view-only password: "ontolog"
*** view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
** Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_08_18
* Date: Thursday, Aug. 18, 2005
* Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=8&day=18&year=2005&hour=10&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]
* Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
* Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
* Participant Access Code: "686564#"

=== Attendees ===

* Attended:
** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]
** [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]]
** [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]]
** [[MonicaMartin|Monica Martin]]

* Expecting:
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]] (will attend if I can)
** [[MarcWine|Marc Wine]]
** ''...(add your name here)...''

* Regrets:
** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] (meeting conflict)
** [[SusanTurnbull|Susan Turnbull]] (meeting conflict)
** [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] (schedule conflict)
** EMichaelMaximilien
** [[PeterBrown|Peter Brown]] (on leave)
** [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]] (on the road)

=== Agenda Ideas ===

== Agenda & Proceedings ==

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

* [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]] took the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered

3) Roll-call of participants

* see [[ConferenceCall_2005_08_18|above]]

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

* Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
** member regular meeting
** invited speaker session
** scheduled discussion
** project review
** workshop / work session
** planning

* Scheduled Ontolog Events
** ''start with this section first'' - Kurt: easier for the flow of the agenda

* Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
** Sep. 8, 2005 - [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] - "The Model Driven Semantic Web - Emerging Technologies & Implementation Strategies" - (proposed by: [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] / PeterYim) - confirmed - see: ConferenceCall_2005_09_08
*** Elisa has posted the ODM spec to the session page; solicits the community's review and comment. (also: nice to browse through that prior to the 9/8/05 session.)
** Sep. 23, 2005 - [[JonBosak|Jon Bosak]] - on a topic related to Community Governance and the OASIS Process (proposed by: [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]] / SusanTurnbull) - Joint session with Susan's Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 at NSF - confirmed
** Oct. 13 2005 - Barry Smith - confirmed ([[BillMcCarthy]])
** Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond -
*** John Sowa (suggested by [[BillMcCarthy]])
*** [[DougLenat|Doug Lenat]] on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)
*** Nicola Guarino on [[DOLCE]], possibly also [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]] or [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]] (suggested by [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] & PatCassidy)
*** LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
*** [[SimonBuckinghamShum]] of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00014.html#nid01 post] from [[ScottLHolmes]] & PeterYim's [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00016.html#nid04 reponse])
*** [[JimSpohrer|Jim Spohrer]] from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)
** other suggestions:
*** Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
*** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
*** Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project
**** Professor Dogac's work has also been previous [http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NhinRfi/ConferenceCall_2005_01_11#nid9DI recommended by] [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ
*** Peter also suggested that we should invite [http://informatik.uibk.ac.at/~dieter/ Dieter Fensel] to talk to us some time
*** Rex / Peter: XMDR - [[Bargmeyer|Bruce Bargmeyer]] or someone from his XMDR team
*** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]]: [[PatHayes|Pat Hayes]], [[DeborahMcGuinness]]
*** To be brought up for discussion today:
**** [[ChrisMenzel|Chris Menzel]]: [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]]
**** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] / Mark Musen / [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)
**** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] / [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: RoyRoebuck
**** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html
**** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C
*** Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to
**** suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa

* Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months (DavidWhitten: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.)
** August 25, 2005 discussion session - moderator: [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]] - see: ConferenceCall_2005_08_25
*** Subject: "Healthcare Informatics Landscapes, Roadmaps, and Blueprints: Towards a Business Case Strategy for Large Scale Ontology Projects"
*** Panelists: [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]], [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]], [[User:DavidWhitten|David Whitten]], [[MarcWine|Marc Wine]], Mark Musen + invited: BrettTrusko, Roy Morgan, Ram Sriram
** Oct. 27 2005 discussion - Moderator: [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: [[ConferenceCall_2005_10_27/Prep]]
** Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
** [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] -- other topics lined up?
** a panel with speaker representating: [[SUMO]], OpenCyc Upper Ontology, [[DOLCE]], ... (suggested by PeterYim)
*** possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE
** Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion
** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
** we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005
** candidates for November, 2005
*** Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
*** Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
*** Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
*** Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
**** Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.
*** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"
**** candidate panelists: [[Bargmeyer|Bruce Bargmeyer]], [[MarkCrawford|Mark Crawford]], [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]], [[AdamPease|Adam Pease]], [[MikeDaconta|Mike Daconta]], [[JimHendler|Jim Hendler]], [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] (moderator?)
**** maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?
*** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it

*
** we had a discussion on when we should engage non-open/commercial work
*** we should keep the community aware of the bleeding edge of the space - open or not
*** "unsolicited" presentations of commercial technologies and products would be a no no; have to be under "invitation"
*** need careful review and oversight; avoid conflict of interest
*** we have to make sure we don't invite / become a free advertising space
*** stay on research and the pre-competitive stage of the technoology, if we can
** for example - Adobe XMP or some of their semantic web related work would be of interest; or the big SERACH vendors

* Upcoming Events of interest
** Sep. 14, 2005 - [http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?DataReferenceModel/DataReferenceModelPublicForum_2005_09_14 2nd DRM Public Forum] (Washington DC) (Susan, Brand & [[MikeDaconta|Mike Daconta]] among the organizers; Mark & Peter among presenter)
** Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill, Duane)
** Sep. 23, 12005 - Collaborative Expedition Workshop #44 (at NSF) - featuring the [[JonBosak|Jon Bosak]] joint-program with Ontolog
** OASIS ebXML registry-repository webinar - Sep. or Oct. (Monica, Joe)
** National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues

* [[SessionArchivesOnCD]]
** not enough demand to make the dvelopment and production of this CD or DVD worth the while (at least on the current exercise.)
** however, consider other possibilities:
*** capturing a snapshot of this body of knowledge (for backup purposes; as an insurance to our sustainability concerns.)
*** distribution through other channels (IEEE, ACM, ...) that helps us promote our cause
*** as a media where, say, our "Journal" is delivered on (see more discussion [[ConferenceCall_2005_08_18|below]]

* Transscript to discussion session
** any volunteer (member? your students?)
** any sponsor?
** let defer this to a planning team discussion

* Any idea abou the e-mail addresses for the following people
** [[RobertGarigue|Robert Garigue]] (Bob), [[JayneDutra|Jayne Dutra]] (Nicolas)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls

* post-mortem on the 2005.08.11 [[JimHendler|Jim Hendler]]: Semantic Q&A session
** what worked well
*** best attended so far
*** extended invitation list now
** what could be improved
*** background noise - Kurt: we can mute everyone ... what it takes is for the speaker to come in with the organizer code - great!
** ideas for the future
** other remarks

* call/meeting to be scheduled with UN/CEFACT-CCTS WG to review Ontolog's comments [attn: [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]] - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_03_10#nid5JB]
** Duane: let's put this on the back burner, and hold off until they approach us again

* possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]

* Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on [[RegularConferenceCall]] scheduling

7) Current Project Status Report

* Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work
** Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)
** Formalization issues
** UBL Liaison update
** [CCT-Rep] status report

* Status of Protege-KIF project work

* status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
** representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.
*** see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/health-ont/2005-07/msg00001.html
*** deadline for abstract submission is Mon 2005.08.08
**** possibility of writing up the 8/25 panel discussion and make that a community submission
** participation in OMG/HL7 workshop 25~27 Oct. 2005 (washington DC) - abstract deadline 2005.08.12 - see: http://www.omg.org/news/meetings/HC2005/index.htm

* UBL liaison report

* SICoP liaison report

* Planning team - discussion
** Kurt: maybe it is time for a "call for papers" - as another means to engage the community
*** let's publish a periodic journal
*** the idea is: let's get people to write stuff
*** a first "annual call for papers"? A review panel?
*** Peter: idea - get a sponsor to donate some money, and award a prize for the best paper(s)
** Bob - Strategic alliance
*** with NCOR
** Synergies with other related communities - try the SEARCH at http://ontolog.cim3.net
*** our wiki supports "transclusion" too - see:
**** http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SandBox#nid8A or
**** http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_10_27/Prep#nidEZR

8) project work session / discussion

9) New project proposals

10) Sponsorship and funding

* possibility of "packaging" our events for sponsorship
** we can package up (a) the monthly speakers and (b) the discussion sessions

* Bob: think of going for European or other International sponsors

11) Other business

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

* regular call adjourned 11:20 am PDT; the planning team (Kurt, Bob and Peter) continued until 12:23pm
* next call will be on Thu 2005.08.25 starting at 10:30 am PDT
** that will be the Ontolog Scheduled Discussion session on: "Healthcare Informatics Landscapes, Roadmaps, and Blueprints: Towards a Business Case Strategy for Large Scale Ontology Projects"
** Moderator: RexBrook
** Panelists: [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]], [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]], [[User:DavidWhitten|David Whitten]], [[MarcWine|Marc Wine]], Mark Musen & pending - BrettTrusko, RoyMorgan, RamSriram.
** See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_08_25

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