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= [ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-12-01 =

=== [[MeetingsCalls|Conference Call]] Details ===

* Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-12-01

* Agenda Comments:
** ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
** In particular, we will be devoting a portion of this call to work out technical discussion topics for the next few months; especially, one that is potentially a joint session on an "Upper Ontology" panel.
** please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|[[WebDAV]]] upload] prior to the meeting
** VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
*** view-only password: "ontolog"
*** view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
** Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_12_01
* Date: Thursday, Dec. 1, 2005
* Start Time: 10:30 AM PST / 1:30 PM EST / 18:30 UTC [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=12&day=1&year=2005&hour=10&min=30&sec=0&p1=224 World Clock]
* Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
* Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
* Participant Access Code: "686564#"

=== Attendees ===

* Attended:
** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]
** [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]]
** [[RexBrooks|Rex Brooks]]
** [[AdamPease|Adam Pease]]
** [[BobSmith|Bob Smith]]
** [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]
** [[BillMcCarthy]]
** [[PatCassidy|Pat Cassidy]]
** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]
** [[DagobertSoergel|Dagobert Soergel]]
** [[MonicaMartin|Monica Martin]]
** [[User:DavidWhitten|David Whitten]]
** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]]

* Expecting:
** ...(add your name here)...''

* Regrets:
** [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]] (in Europe on vacation)
** [[BarrySmith|Barry Smith]]
** [[MarkGreaves|Mark Greaves]]
** EMichaelMaximilien
** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] (conflict with DRM Pilot meeting)

=== Agenda Ideas ===

* ''...(add suggested items here)...''

== Agenda & Proceedings ==

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

* [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]] took the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

* [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] volunteered

3) Roll-call of participants

* see [[ConferenceCall_2005_12_01|above]]

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

* Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
** member regular meeting
** invited speaker session
** scheduled discussion
** project review
** workshop / work session
** planning

* Scheduled Ontolog Events
** Thu Dec. 8, 2005 - [[JimSpohrer|Jim Spohrer]] - "Services Science, Management, and Engineering (SSME)" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_12_08 - confirmed (PeterYim & EMichaelMaximilien)
** Thu Dec. 15, 2005 discussion - Moderator: [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]] & [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]] - subject: "Ontology Applications and Implementations" - see: [[ConferenceCall_2005_12_15/Prep]]
** Thu Jan. 12, 2006 - [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]] - "What is an ontology? - A Briefing on the Range of Semantic Models" - confirmed (PeterYim)
** Thu Feb. 9, 2006 - [[AsumanDogac|Asuman Dogac]] - "Exploiting ebXML Registry Semantics in the eHealth Domain" - confirmed (MonicaMartin)

* Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
** Candidate -
*** Nicola Guarino on [[DOLCE]], possibly also [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]] or [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]] (suggested by [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] & PatCassidy)
*** [[SimonBuckinghamShum]] of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00014.html#nid01 post] from [[ScottLHolmes]] & PeterYim's [http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2004-12/msg00016.html#nid04 reponse])
*** LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
*** John Sowa (suggested by [[BillMcCarthy]])
** other suggestions:
*** Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
*** Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
*** Peter also suggested that we should invite [http://informatik.uibk.ac.at/~dieter/ Dieter Fensel] to talk to us some time
*** Rex / Peter: XMDR - [[Bargmeyer|Bruce Bargmeyer]] or someone from his XMDR team
*** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] / [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]]: [[PatHayes|Pat Hayes]], [[DeborahMcGuinness]]
*** To be brought up for discussion:
**** [[ChrisMenzel|Chris Menzel]]: [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]]
**** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] / Mark Musen / [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)
**** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] / [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: RoyRoebuck
**** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html
**** [[DuaneNickull|Duane Nickull]]: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C
**** [[ChrisMenzel|Chris Menzel]] & [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: [[ChrisMenzel|Chris Menzel]] some time early 2006 - on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)
**** [[PeterBrown|Peter Brown]] & [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (new!): [[PeterBrown|Peter Brown]] some time early 2006 - on the EU project that [[PeterBrown|Peter Brown]] has been working on in Austria: of building an "eGovernment Resources Network" - the issues relating to handling the exchange of reference information about eGovernment services across the continent - in many languages. This could serve as an interesting case study of what we are looking for from so-called "semantic web services".
**** [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] (new! input/2005.10.15): EricPeterson - who's been working on an OWL version of the FEA-DRM and who will lead the COSMO development subgroup in the newly formed SICoP / ONTAC-WG
**** [[MillsDavis|Mills Davis]] (new! / 2005.11.26) - Conor Shankey (CEO, Visual Knowledge)
**** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (new! / 2005.11.28) - [[AdamCheyer|Adam Cheyer]], SRI, on the CALO project
**** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (new! Prompted by Doug Lenat's talk) - [[MikeGenesereth|Mike Genesereth]] (director of the Stanford Logic Group)
**** suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa

* Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates:
** a panel with speaker representing: [[SUMO]], OpenCyc Upper Ontology, [[DOLCE]], ... (suggested by PeterYim/2005.01.20) -- to be discussed in more detail today [[ConferenceCall_2005_12_01|below]]
*** possibly teaming up with SICoP and their ONTAC-WG/COSMO-WG
** Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion
** Rex suggested we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
** Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
** [[NicolasRouquette|Nicolas Rouquette]] -- other topics lined up?
** Other candidates:
*** Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
*** Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
*** Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
*** Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
**** Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.
*** [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]]: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"
**** candidate panelists: [[Bargmeyer|Bruce Bargmeyer]], [[MarkCrawford|Mark Crawford]], [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]], [[AdamPease|Adam Pease]], [[MikeDaconta|Mike Daconta]], [[JimHendler|Jim Hendler]], [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] (moderator?)
**** maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?

* Upcoming Events of interest
** SusanTurnbull's CEW#46 - Tue 2005.12.06 at NSF (Ballston, VA) & via Remote Access - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?[[ExpeditionWorkshop/AdvancingInformationSharingAndDataArchitecture_2005_12_06]]

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues

6) Follow-ups from previous calls

* Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on [[RegularConferenceCall]] scheduling -- (Bob / Nicolas - please bring closure to this item)

* session with UN/CEFACT on CCTS 3.0 recommendations
** Kurt: called CCTS / Mary Kay-Blantz on Nov. 11, 2005
*** we see our input as a starting point for discussion (not an immediate actionable change request)
*** they prefer a F2F discussion rather than a phone conference
*** are interested to have us present at their Conference on Mar. 13~17, 2006 in Vancouver, Canada
*** would be wonderful if we can do a "What is an Ontology?" like what Leo is going to present on Jan. 12, 2006
**** we should invite them [attn: Kurt]

7) Current Project Status Report

* Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work - nothing to report
** Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)
** Formalization issues
** UBL Liaison update
** [CCT-Rep] status report

* Status of Protege-KIF project work
** Peter & Pat working on putting this up on the SMI/CIM3 CODS server

* status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
** representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.
*** Marc Wine presented on HITOP

* UBL liaison report - nothing to report

* SICoP liaison report
** Brand: I would like to get ONTAC / Ontolog Forum help with the review of DRM / Section 207 d Best Practice Examples
*** see slide 7 for our December 6th (CEW#46) Workshop at http://web-services.gov/scopedrmit212062005.ppt

* NCOR relationship - pending

* Planning team report - nothing to report

8) project work session / discussion -

* Thu 2005.12.15 Scheduled Discussion on "Ontology Applications and Implementations" - final tuning

* Discussion on a Joint "Upper Ontology Panel"
** collaborators (co-organizer): Ontolog, SICOP/ONTAC/COSMO, NIST, NCOR, CYCorp, LOA, Articulate Software, ...
** Action plan
*** an organizing committee to work offline
**** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]], [[PatCassidy|Pat Cassidy]], [[PeterYim|Peter P. Yim]] (coordinator), [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]], [[KurtConrad|Kurt Conrad]], ... also, [[BrandNiemann|Brand Niemann]] (confirmed: 2005.12.07)
***** Peter to make a post to the forum to ask if others want to join too (e.g. [[GaryBergCross]], [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]], ... have so indicated)
*** precede and follow the event with a focused forum discussion on the topic? (already on [ontac-forum]? same or different discussion?)
** date / time:
*** Steve: Mar. 13~17 2006 "Interoperability Week" at NIST (note conflict with UN/CEFACT Vancouver conference)
**** Steve: possibility to devote a day (or half-day) of that week to this event
***** decision: try to lock in for Thursday afternoon (ET) for the panel
***** maybe the other half day can be used by those onsite to do some real F2F work
***** need the sessions to be available remotely for those who will only participate virtually
** candidate moderator
*** we all agreed that we needed someone who is neutral, moderate, and is highly respected by the community
*** a few of the candidates were dropped because they have a position that they wanted to represent at the event
*** [[SteveRay|Steve Ray]] is elected to be the moderator for this panel
** candidate panelist (and targeted participant)
*** [[AdamPease|Adam Pease]], Nicola Guarino, [[ChrisWelty|Chris Welty]], [[BillAndersen|Bill Andersen]], [[AldoGangemi|Aldo Gangemi]] ("Descriptions and Situations" extensions of DOLCE), [[DougLenat|Doug Lenat]], [[DagobertSoergel|Dagobert Soergel]], [[PatCassidy|Pat Cassidy]], [[MichaelGruninger|Michael Grüninger]], [[MatthewWest|Matthew West]] (ISO15926), [[JohnSowa|John F. Sowa]], [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]] (OMG/ODM), [[Bargmeyer|Bruce Bargmeyer]] or [[NancyLawler|Nancy Lawler]] (ISO11179), ...
** goal
*** shall we based this event on the assumption/precept that "a common upper ontology is good"
*** get parties to set aside their own agenda and genuinely collaborate
** follow-up
** Thoughts
*** Rex: need more than 2 hours
*** Rex: should we involve the UDEF people?
**** general consensus is no, since even they (UDEF folks) themselves disclaim that they are an ontology in all their recent presentations
*** Peter: accesible both onsite and remote
*** Pat / Steve: notify the press
*** Pat: eliminate the perception that this is a "religious" battle among the ontologists themselves
*** David: health ontology folks involved?
** refer to subsequent preparation work for this event at the [[UpperOntologyPanel]] project page

* Presenting at the OASIS Symposium 2006 (9-12 May 2006, San Francisco, CA) - Proposal submission deadline: 20 December 2005
** see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2005-11/msg00010.html
** Duane and Rex are submitting, requesting that they cover our (Ontolog) work as a sidebar

9) New project proposals

10) Sponsorship and funding

11) Other business

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

* regular call adjourned 11:43 am PST
* next call will be on Thu 2005-12-08 starting at 10:30 am PST - Dr. James Spohrer of IBM will be speaking on "Services Science, Management, and Engineering (SSME)" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_12_08 ... see you there. RSVP!

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