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| [[convener::KenBaclawski]]<br />
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= [[OntologySummit2021|Ontology Summit 2021]] {{#show:{{PAGENAME}}|?Session}} =<br />
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== Agenda ==<br />
* 12:00 - 12:30 EDT '''[[LeiaDickerson|Leia Dickerson]]''', U.S. Government Accountability Office, ''Integrating Sustainability into Ontology Development: The Case of GAO’s Fraud Ontology'' [https://bit.ly/3x3XrBX Slides]<br />
* 12:30 - 13:00 EDT Discussion<br />
* [https://bit.ly/3tzb6yz Video Recording]<br />
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== Conference Call Information ==<br />
* Date: '''Wednesday, 14 Apr 2021''' <br />
* Start Time: 9:00am PDT / 12:00pm EDT / 6:00pm CEST / 5:00pm BST / 1600 UTC <br />
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=04&day=14&year=2021&hour=12&min=00&sec=0&p1=179 World Clock] <br />
* Expected Call Duration: 1 hour<br />
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== Attendees ==<br />
* [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]]<br />
* [[AmberGray|Amber Gray]]<br />
* [[BobbinTeegarden|Bobbin Teegarden]]<br />
* [[CarlaCraddock|Carla Craddock]]<br />
* [[CassiopeiaMiles|Cassiopeia Miles]]<br />
* [[DougHolmes|Doug Holmes]]<br />
* [[DouglasRMiles|Douglas R Miles]]<br />
* [[ElisaKendall|Elisa Kendall]]<br />
* [[ErinLynnPlettenberg|Erin Lynn Plettenberg]]<br />
* [[GaryBergCross|Gary Berg-Cross]]<br />
* Heather<br />
* [[HeatherDunahoo|Heather Dunahoo]]<br />
* [[JanetSinger|Janet Singer]]<br />
* [[KenBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]<br />
* [[LaVernPritchard|LaVern Pritchard]]<br />
* [[LeiaDickerson|Leia Dickerson]]<br />
* [[MariaHerrero|Maria Herrero]]<br />
* martinodb<br />
* [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]<br />
* [[NancyWiegand|Nancy Wiegand]]<br />
* Nick W.<br />
* [[PavelHruby|Pavel Hruby]]<br />
* [[PeteRivett|Pete Rivett]]<br />
* [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]<br />
* Rebecca<br />
* [[RussellReinsch|Russell Reinsch]]<br />
* [[SeanGordon|Sean Gordon]]<br />
* [[SeljaSeppala|Selja Seppälä]]<br />
* [[StevenPutansu|Steven Putansu]]<br />
* [[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]<br />
* [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]<br />
* [[TomTinsley|Tom Tinsley]]<br />
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== Discussion ==<br />
[12:05] RaviSharma: Hello Leia welcome<br />
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[12:06] RaviSharma: Is the GAO also the lead agency for transition?<br />
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[12:14] RaviSharma: Is the GAO covering domestic, DHS, or Financial and international frauds?<br />
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[12:14] RaviSharma: Is the framework even triggered CEP?<br />
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[12:16] RaviSharma: Fraud risk - is it evaluated similar to financial risk with Environmental, Sovereign and credit risk?<br />
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[12:20] RaviSharma: How many agencies Fraud risks are your frame addressing? Is it quantitative or just based on some other models?<br />
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[12:20] RaviSharma: Great to know that Framework includes ontology<br />
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[12:21] RaviSharma: It looks like there is lot of reverse engineering or training sets of fraud use cases to make the model of ontology?<br />
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[12:22] RaviSharma: It looks like reverse engineering of fraud use cases?<br />
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[12:24] ToddSchneider: The subject of the fraud?<br />
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[12:24] ToddSchneider: Is 'Fraud' considered a Process?<br />
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[12:25] BobbinTeegarden: There are pieces of a context there (who what when where why and how), but not coherently so...<br />
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[12:26] RaviSharma: Yes Todd that was my Q also in saying CEP!<br />
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[12:27] TerryLongstreth: @Leia: GAO pursue penalties/restitution for fraudulent activities you discover, or is that action handed off?<br />
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[12:30] RaviSharma: you did not say what the fraud was, just they received grant or that they used the money wrongfully or was it stolen information?<br />
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[12:33] RaviSharma: Lei - I have a Q on sustainability tying with stability of information repository as well as continuity of expertise of team, how are these assured?<br />
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[12:41] RaviSharma: your source is past use cases but it is going to forecast ? but the fraudsters constantly change their patterns and technologies so how will that be forecast using old use cases?<br />
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[12:42] RaviSharma: It is not clear as to how ontology fits in the framework?<br />
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[12:42] RaviSharma: Do you have an architecture of the framework?<br />
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[12:47] MikeBennett: Ontology: Fraud is a great example of where you need to manage the relationship between the ontological definition of Fraud as a real world thing, and how you interact with available data that signifies when those real things are in play.<br />
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[12:47] Gary Berg-Cross: Leia, is the ontology and project stored on something like GitHub so that issues and releases are tracked?<br />
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[12:48] anonymous: What's the budget / cost of planning and developing the GAO fraud ontology you're describing today?<br />
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[13:03] MikeBennett: Fraud has a lot in common with Risk e.g. Event, Impact. But with Probability = 100%. A kind of Issue?<br />
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[13:09] MikeBennett: Terminology is very contextually determined.<br />
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[13:09] RaviSharma: It is still not clear to me as to how the model, framework and ontology are architected together nor as to how these are tied to activities (as Todd said Process)?<br />
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[13:13] Gary Berg-Cross: My 2nd question was about the degree of leveraging existing glossary definitions such as found in environmental or manufacturing sustainability.<br />
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[13:13] RaviSharma: Ken commented that stakeholders buy-in in sustainability?<br />
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[13:14] RaviSharma: Leia said there is interest in determining fraud related to Covid<br />
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[13:15] RaviSharma: thanks everyone especially Leia and GAO folks.<br />
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[13:16] ToddSchneider: Have to go. Thank you Leia.<br />
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[13:18] janet singer: Good question, Ravi. There is ontological thinking going on, and there are ontology-like elements, but the framework/model/scheme seem to be more than an ontology.<br />
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[13:19] janet singer: in a good sense!<br />
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[14:05] RaviSharma: Yes but how they are tied is not clear. Thanks janet.<br />
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== Resources ==<br />
* [https://bit.ly/3x3XrBX Slides]<br />
* [https://bit.ly/3tzb6yz Video Recording]<br />
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