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| [[has date::12 May 2021 16:00 GMT]]
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| 9:00am PDT/12:00pm EDT
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| 5:00pm BST/6:00pm CEST
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! scope="row" | Convener
| [[convener::KenBaclawski]]
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| [[Track::Synthesis]]
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= [[OntologySummit2021|Ontology Summit 2021]] {{#show:{{PAGENAME}}|?Session}} =
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== Agenda ==
* 12:00 - 13:00 EDT Informal Synthesis Session [https://bit.ly/3ujnVg8 Video Recording]

== Conference Call Information ==
* Date: '''Wednesday, 12 May 2021'''
* Start Time: 9:00am PDT / 12:00pm EDT / 6:00pm CEST / 5:00pm BST / 1600 UTC
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=05&day=12&year=2021&hour=12&min=00&sec=0&p1=179 World Clock]
* Expected Call Duration: 1 hour
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== Attendees ==
* [[AlexShkotin|Alex Shkotin]]
* [[DaveWhitten|Dave Whitten]]
* [[DougHolmes|Doug Holmes]]
* [[DouglasRMiles|Douglas R Miles]]
* [[GaryBergCross|Gary Berg-Cross]]
* [[JanetSinger|Janet Singer]]
* [[KenBaclawski|Ken Baclawski]]
* [[LeiaDickerson|Leia Dickerson]]
* [[MarkUnderwood|Mark Underwood]]
* [[PeteRivett|Pete Rivett]]
* [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]]
* [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]
* [[SeljaSeppala|Selja Seppälä]]
* [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]

== Discussion ==
[12:15] ToddSchneider: Landscape =def. all the visible features of an area of countryside or land, often considered in terms of their aesthetic appeal

[12:19] RaviSharma: sustainability and time span Todd Gary and Ken discussed

[12:20] RaviSharma: Gary also mentioned that landscape could tie the tracks, then others said architecture of landscape is hard to envision

[12:21] RaviSharma: Ken showed Tim Berners Lee article of rules and least power for purpose - sort of!

[12:28] ToddSchneider: The IOF requires both natural language and First Order Logic definitions. Plus an intermediate definition, semi-formal, to bridge natural language and First Order Logic definitions.

[12:31] RaviSharma: we need to view landscape as a vantage point - Gary's comment

[12:32] whitten: There is little mention of SalientAssumptions, the microtheory hierarchy, as part of a definition.

[12:33] whitten: I can't discuss this verbally as my voice connection is lacking.

[12:33] ToddSchneider: See the Appendix 0 (end of the page) at https://www.industrialontologies.org/technical-principles/

[12:34] whitten: The idea of a Formal Language as a way to make a statement/proposition available to a computer.

[12:36] ToddSchneider: Landscape: What is an ontology; How is an ontology used; How is an ontology developed or created; How is an ontology maintained or extended;

[12:37] whitten: The Computer Natural language and the English and the semi-formal definitions for Human understandable has a problem that humans can piece together a statement with its own assumed statements that state its assumptions.

[12:38] whitten: I believe John Sowa has stated that a Controlled Natural Language can be mechanically converted into Formal Logic.

[12:40] whitten: If you are depending on diagrams, you really need to understand and formalize the assumptions between Image Schemas implicit in the diagram.

[12:41] whitten: Listing a vocabulary and taxonomy already in use in a field is a useful in creating Formal definitions.

[12:47] Gary Berg-Cross: I would add to the general outline the issue of quality ontologies - needed for KGs, what they leverage and what development processes add quality.

[12:51] RaviSharma: David Whitten made Cyc related and biomed field related comments to draw conclusions.

[12:51] ToddSchneider: Something has come up. Have to go.

[12:53] janet singer: What makes an ontology fit for purpose? What makes an ontology *sustainably* fit for purpose over time (changes in situations/contexts)? Approaches: 1) begin with well-developed theory, 2) use methods for learning/updating from data, 3) combine the two

[13:00] Mark Underwood: I wasn't able to get a speaker from this WG, but there are some sustainability aspects to this proposed IEEE standard https://site.ieee.org/sagroups-7007/

[13:00] Gary Berg-Cross: Yes, issues of sustainability comes up in a look the landscape.

[13:01] RaviSharma: thanks everyone. Ken says no session on 19th May

== Resources ==
* [https://bit.ly/3ujnVg8 Video Recording]

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