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Resources

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	* [https://bit.ly/3N7pIBG Slides]		* [https://bit.ly/3N7pIBG Slides]
	* [https://bit.ly/3qdWvM5 Video Recording]		* [https://bit.ly/3qdWvM5 Video Recording]
			* [https://youtu.be/6K6F_zsQ264 Video Recording on YouTube]
	* [https://permion.ai/permion_osiris.html Permion Osiris Webpage]		* [https://permion.ai/permion_osiris.html Permion Osiris Webpage]

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	# Large Language Models (LLMs)		# Large Language Models (LLMs)
	# From perception to cognition		# From perception to cognition
	* [https://bit.ly/~~3N7pIBG~~ Slides]		* [https://bit.ly/3IPrqVq Slides]
	* Part II by [[ArunMajumdar\|Arun Majumdar]]: Permion technology and applications.		* Part II by [[ArunMajumdar\|Arun Majumdar]]: Permion technology and applications.
	* [https://bit.ly/3qdWvM5 Video Recording]		* [https://bit.ly/3qdWvM5 Video Recording]

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Resources

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	* [https://bit.ly/3N7pIBG Slides]		* [https://bit.ly/3N7pIBG Slides]
	* [https://bit.ly/3qdWvM5 Video Recording]		* [https://bit.ly/3qdWvM5 Video Recording]
			* [https://permion.ai/permion_osiris.html Permion Osiris Webpage]

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Safety and Reliability of AI

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	=== Safety and Reliability of AI ===		=== Safety and Reliability of AI ===
			[13:47] Ram D. Sriram: If ChaptGPT-like systems are returning inaccurate results then are people like Sam Altman worried about “Stupid” AI triggering disasters (like destroying a nuclear reactor). I see lot of folks want research on AI to be stopped temporarily and look into regulating AI (just like nuclear regulators are being regulated).

	[14:00] Gary Berg-Cross: It would seem that the Permion experience would provide some high level requirements for a safe and responsive AI system.		[14:00] Gary Berg-Cross: It would seem that the Permion experience would provide some high level requirements for a safe and responsive AI system.

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Knowledge Graphs

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	=== Knowledge Graphs ===		=== Knowledge Graphs ===
	[12:25] ToddSchneider: Don't transformers represent a type of knowledge graph?		[12:25] ToddSchneider: Don't transformers represent a type of knowledge graph?

			[12:33] Ram D. Sriram: I presume GPT-like systems somehow generate KGs. Any thoughts on how Permion’s KGs integrate with GPT’s KGs

	=== Generation Capabilities of GPT ===		=== Generation Capabilities of GPT ===

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Linguistic Information

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	[12:24] ToddSchneider: What sorts of linguistic information?		[12:24] ToddSchneider: What sorts of linguistic information?

	[12:24] What is your opinion about		[12:24] Anatol Reibold: What is your opinion about
	# Reasoning Mining		# Reasoning Mining
	# Argument generation		# Argument generation

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Discussion

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	== Discussion ==		== Discussion ==
			Please note that the questions listed below were answered during the session and are available on the video recording.

			=== Probabilistic Reasoning ===
			[12:16] ToddSchneider: Does reasoning include probabilistic reasoning?

			=== Linguistic Information ===
			[12:24] ToddSchneider: What sorts of linguistic information?

			[12:24] What is your opinion about
			# Reasoning Mining
			# Argument generation
			# Persuasive Communications ?
			Can it be the next hype?

			=== Knowledge Graphs ===
			[12:25] ToddSchneider: Don't transformers represent a type of knowledge graph?

			=== Generation Capabilities of GPT ===
			[12:28] Mike Bennett: I wonder if GPT would make a good way to generate human-readable glossaries from conventional OWL ontologies?

			=== Emotions ===
			[12:37] BobbinTeegarden: Why aren't emotions just another aspect of the context... maybe part of the 'why' in who what when where why how of context?

			[12:38] Mike Bennett: +1. Anything can be an aspect of context.

			[13:18] BobbinTeegarden: Isn't a 'viewpoint' a context (perspective = context?)?

			=== Reasoning ===
			[12:38] Phil Jackson: Some questions for John: Can GPT talk to itself? To what extent does GPT reason in NL or a formal language? Or, how does GPT approximate reasoning by just using neural nets?

			[12:55] ToddSchneider: Phil, Are you asking if ChatGPT can ask itself questions (i.e. some sort of self-referentiality capability)?

			[13:51] BobbinTeegarden: Is your reasoning then 'holonic'?

			[13:53] BobbinTeegarden: Is your reasoning recursive, and if so, how do you unwind?

			=== Intentions ===
			[13:20] Gary Berg-Cross: As a test text it would be good to use something that involves agents with intentions.

			=== Self-Awareness ===
			[13:23] Phil Jackson: Arun, can you ask your system what it knows or thinks about itself?

			[13:24] Phil Jackson: Todd, yes that would be one kind of question about ChatGPT.

			[13:38] ToddSchneider: Is it important to avoid self-referentiality?

			[13:39] BobbinTeegarden: Does your GPT have a sense of 'self'?

			=== Common Logic ===
			[13:29] Marc-Antoine Parent: Can you say more about graph embedding for common logic?

			=== Foundational Ontologies ===
			[13:29] ToddSchneider: Arun, can your system use as 'input' a foundational ontology?

			=== Performance Metrics ===
			[13:44] Gary Berg-Cross: It may be interesting to some to look back on NIST's Performance Metrics for Intelligent Systems brought together researchers, developers, and users from disparate academic disciplines and domains of application to share ideas about how to tackle the multifaceted challenges of defining and measuring intelligence in artificial systems. The intelligent systems could take numerous forms: robots, factory or enterprise control systems, smart homes, decision support systems, etc. A community was formed, which evolved over the years. https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA515942.pdf

			=== Meta-Reasoning ===
			[13:49] Marc-Antoine Parent: Thank you, Arun. Thinking a lot of unification as meta-reasoning, but nowhere near where you're at.

			=== Availability of Permion ===
			[13:56] BobbinTeegarden: Can we get an interface to play with Permion?

			=== Safety and Reliability of AI ===
			[14:00] Gary Berg-Cross: It would seem that the Permion experience would provide some high level requirements for a safe and responsive AI system.

			=== Additional links ===
			* https://www.ted.com/talks/yejin_choi_why_ai_is_incredibly_smart_and_shockingly_stupid/c?language=en
			* Excellent read: "Too Big for a Single Mind: How the Greatest Generation of Physicists Uncovered the Quantum World," Tobias Hurter, 2021

	== Resources ==		== Resources ==

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	== Agenda ==		== Agenda ==
	* Part I by [[JohnSowa\|John Sowa]~~] [https://bit.ly/3N7pIBG Slides~~]		* Part I by [[JohnSowa\|John Sowa]]
	# Strengths and limitations of GPT		# Strengths and limitations of GPT
	# Large Language Models (LLMs)		# Large Language Models (LLMs)
	# From perception to cognition		# From perception to cognition
			* [https://bit.ly/3N7pIBG Slides]
	* Part II by [[ArunMajumdar\|Arun Majumdar]]: Permion technology and applications.		* Part II by [[ArunMajumdar\|Arun Majumdar]]: Permion technology and applications.
			* [https://bit.ly/3qdWvM5 Video Recording]

	== Conference Call Information ==		== Conference Call Information ==
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	* Chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontology_summit_2023		* Chat room: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontology_summit_2023

	== ~~Attendees~~ ==		== Participants ==
			There were 40 attendees, including
			* Anatol Reibold
			* [[ArunMajumdar\|Arun Majumdar]]
			* [[BobbinTeegarden\|Bobbin Teegarden]]
			* [[DavidEddy\|David Eddy]]
			* [[GaryBergCross\|Gary Berg-Cross]]
			* [[JohnSowa\|John Sowa]]
			* Jack Park
			* [[JamesOverton\|James Overton]]
			* [[JanetSinger\|Janet Singer]]
			* [[KenBaclawski\|Ken Baclawski]]
			* Ludmila Malahov
			* Marc-Antoine Parent
			* [[MarciaZeng\|Marcia Zeng]]
			* [[MikeBennett\|Mike Bennett]]
			* Phil Jackson
			* [[RamSriram\|Ram D. Sriram]]
			* [[ToddSchneider\|Todd Schneider]]

	== Discussion ==		== Discussion ==

	== Resources ==		== Resources ==
			* [https://bit.ly/3N7pIBG Slides]
			* [https://bit.ly/3qdWvM5 Video Recording]

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Agenda

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	== Agenda ==		== Agenda ==
	* Part I by [[JohnSowa\|John Sowa]]:		* Part I by [[JohnSowa\|John Sowa]] [https://bit.ly/3N7pIBG Slides]
	# Strengths and limitations of GPT		# Strengths and limitations of GPT
	# Large Language Models (LLMs)		# Large Language Models (LLMs)

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Special Session of the Ontolog Forum on GPT

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	= Special Session of the Ontolog Forum on GPT =		= Special Session of the Ontolog Forum on GPT =
			''Evaluating and Reasoning with and about GPT''

	Large Language Models are derived from large volumes of texts		Large Language Models are derived from large volumes of texts
	stored on the WWW, and more texts acquired as they are used. GPT		stored on the WWW, and more texts acquired as they are used. GPT