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! scope="row" | Session
| [[session::Planning]]
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| [[duration::1 hour]]
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! scope="row" rowspan="3" | Date/Time
| [[has date::November 27 2019 17:00 GMT]]
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| 9:00am PST/12:00pm EST
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| 5:00pm GMT/6:00pm CET
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! scope="row" | Convener
| [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]
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= [[OntologySummit2020|Ontology Summit 2020]] [[Title::Summit Planning]] =

== Agenda ==
* The session will focus on planning the main summit sessions.
** Overview diagram for the summit.
** Mission statement/Description of the summit
** Scheduling of sessions
*** Should there be tracks?

== Conference Call Information ==
* Date: '''Wednesday, 27-November-2019''' 
* Start Time: 9:00am PST / 12:00pm EST / 6:00pm CET / 5:00pm GMT / 1700 UTC 
** ref: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=11&day=27&year=2019&hour=12&min=00&sec=0&p1=179 World Clock] 
* Expected Call Duration: 1 hour

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== Participants ==
* [[AndreaWesterinen|Andrea Westerinen]]
* [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]
* [[BobbinTeegarden|Bobbin Teegarden]]
* [[DaveWhitten|Dave Whitten]]
* [[DouglasRMiles|Douglas R Miles]]
* [[EliseStickles|Elise Stickles]]
* [[GaryBergCross|Gary Berg-Cross]]
* [[GeorgeHurlburt|George Hurlburt]]
* [[JanetSinger|Janet Singer]]
* [[JanetteWong|Janette Wong]]
* [[JohnSowa|John Sowa]]
* [[JosephSimpson|James Joseph Simpson]]
* [[MarkUnderwood|Mark Underwood]]
* [[Olaf Dammann|Olaf Dammann]]
* [[RamSriram|Ram D. Sriram]]
* [[RaviSharma|Ravi Sharma]]
* [[TerryLongstreth|Terry Longstreth]]
* [[ToddSchneider|Todd Schneider]]

== Proceedings ==
[12:21] ToddSchneider: From the 2020 Summit page: The theme of the Summit is to examine KGs from a number of points of view ranging from low-level representation and storage techniques to high-level semantics, and from the vendors to the end users. Rather than being split into tracks, the Summit will cover a number of relevant areas with a mix of individual speaker sessions and panel discussion sessions.

[12:23] ToddSchneider: See http://ontologforum.org/index.php/OntologySummit2020 for a list of 'relevant areas'.

[12:33] ToddSchneider: From the 2020 Summit page: 
  Application Domains
    Financial
    Medical 
    Manufacturing
    Geospatial

[12:34] ToddSchneider: Perhaps use 'Business' instead of 'Financial'; And 'Health Care' instead of 'Medical'.

[12:35] ToddSchneider: We can contact Gary Berg-Cross for examples of specific applications in the Geospatial domain.

[12:36] ToddSchneider: 'Security' or 'Cyber Security' as a domain (of interest).

[12:40] BartGajderowicz: Regarding the "Business" category, would "Economics" be too broad? For example, where would "Insurance" fall under?  Would it be "Economics", "Business," or its own category?

[12:47] ToddSchneider: The challenge is to find one or more people to provide presentations in the 'area'.

[12:47] BartGajderowicz: Regarding categories, social domains like cities (e.g. smart city, policy, etc) would be beneficial.

[12:47] John Sowa: We need to distinguish two purposes for any kind of ontology

[12:48] John Sowa: For natural language search, we need immensely large hierarchies

[12:48] John Sowa: WordNet is an example,but it's not big enough.

[12:49] John Sowa: We need a hierarchy of terms that is bigger than the Oxford English Dictionary.

[12:49] John Sowa: In the UMLS web site, they have ontologies with more than 100,000 classes.

[12:51] John Sowa: No ontology with that many classes can have a formal (precise logic) definition of the terms.

[12:52] Janette Wong: There is this paper:  Towards Building a Knowledge Base of Monetary
Transactions from a News Collection

[12:52] Janette Wong: by Jan R. Benetka et al

[12:53] John Sowa: Cyc is the largest formal ontology on the planet.  Doug Lenat stated very clearly that all the precise reasoning is based on the microtheories

[12:57] BartGajderowicz: Followup to my question about social domains, would "Government" be a category? I will try to investigate speakers or examples that can be presented. I know there are many "open gov" portals, some good some bad, but they are out there.

[12:57] RaviSharma1: top level vs microtheories

[12:58] RaviSharma1: todd need to minimize confusion about KGs

[13:03] John Sowa: Fundamental distinction:  NL semantics (huge vocabulary, vague definitions)

[13:03] John Sowa: versus formal ontologies:  precise definitions for a smaller number of fundamental terms.

[13:07] RaviSharma: John do the terms in formal ontologies relate to KBs data stores and RDBMS etc.?

[13:07] Olaf: Application Domains = Tracks

 Prerequisites for Knowledge Graphs
 - Distinction: Ontologies/Logic vs Language/Terminologies
 - Top level vs. microtheories

 Business
 - Financial

 Cybersecurity

 Health
 - Medicine
   - Pharmaceutial
   - Drug Interactions
 - Public Health
 

 Manufacturing
 - 

 Geospatial
 - 

[13:08] RaviSharma: thanks Olaf

== Resources ==
[http://bit.ly/2OVNAbT Video Recording]

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