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'''IAOA Semantic Web Applied Ontology (SWAO) SIG'''

Meetings are normally on the first Monday of the month at these times. 

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== Agenda ==

* Housekeeping
** Wiki: general / indexing etc.
** New blog - see http://iaoaswao.blogspot.co.uk/
** Publicizing the Blog
** Discuss possibilities for linking to IAOA URL structure
** Discuss possible use of Q and A site / features

* Issue of the Journal of Applied Ontology
** Status update - we now have the details for this
** Next actions

* Tutorial / training material and media
** White paper for business people
** Introductory online/training tutorial 
*** Feedback from Education Committee 
*** "Gentle introduction to ontologies" availability
** Book - continue discussion / where were we on this?

* Consensus Building
** Role for this SIG to maintain a kind of wiki resource which identifies consensus, references.
** Existing resources we would want to collate and promote 
** Should we aim to maintain a library?
** Knowledge base and list of knowledgeable individuals, and understand current work, projects and interests

* Membership, recruitment etc.
** Things we can do now the infrastructure is sorted out
** Brainstorm and share information about people and projects relevant to this SIG 
*** Linked Data
*** Big Data
*** Terminology and related science
*** Internet of Things
*** Cognitive Computing
** Reach out them to make them aware of our existence 
** Maybe invite them for a talk or an informal chat

* AOB

* Next Meeting

== Meeting Chat Log (Raw) ==

List of attendees: [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]], [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]], [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]],

[15:02] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Apologies:

[15:02] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Naicong Li

[15:02] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Andrea Westerinen

[15:06] anonymous morphed into [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]

[15:22] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Blog:

[15:22] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: People can apply to be an Author - by email to Mike or Andrea, and we will add you

[15:22] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The blog does not allow anonymous comments

[15:22] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: THe blog does allow anyonw who is logged in to their Google account to post.

[15:23] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Publicizing the Blog

[15:24] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Everyone can please hit the Google+ Facebook, Twitter button to let their followes know of it

[15:24] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We can also post to various lists...

[15:25] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Leo has a list of lists we can use.

[15:26] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: ACTION Leo will send this list to the swao list, then Mike or others can post links to the SWAP blog. We can carve that work up.

[15:27] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: URI Linking

[15:27] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Can we make this a sub-domain off the IAOA domain e.g. swao.iaoa.org

[15:28] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: I found the list of distribution lists I compiled for Ontology Summit 2014: I'll post to the chat.

[15:28] [[LeoObrst|Leo Obrst]]: 'semantic-web@w3.org'

'ifla-l@infoserv.inist.fr'

'diglib@infoserv.inist.fr'

'public-semnews@w3.org'

'SEMANTICWEB@yahoogroups.com'

'public-egov-ig@w3.org'

'public-esw-thes@w3.org'

'public-lod@w3.org'

'dl@dl.kr.org'

'IRList@lists.shef.ac.uk'

'dbworld@cs.wisc.edu'

PlanetKR@kr.org

obo-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net

public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org

AI-SGES@JISCMAIL.AC.UK



KMgov kmgov@list.jpl.nasa.gov

iaoa-general@ontolog.cim3.net

[ontolog-invitation] ontolog-invitation@ontolog.cim3.net

Ontology Summit 2014 ontology-summit@ontolog.cim3.net

'[ontolog-forum] ' ontolog-forum@ontolog.cim3.net

protege-user@lists.stanford.edu

iaoa-member@ontolog.cim3.net

iaoa-general@ontolog.cim3.net

[15:29] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Blogspot allows you do that. Requires the registrar of the iaoa domain to co-ordinate.

[15:29] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We would have to run this by the the Executive Council of IAOA.

[15:29] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Frank Loebe and Oliver Kutz would end up doing the work on this.

[15:30] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The choices we would have include:

[15:30] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: swao.iaoa.org

[15:30] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: swao-blog.iaoa.org

[15:30] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: www.iaoa.org/swao-blog

[15:31] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: www.iaoa.org/swao/this and that

[15:31] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: (we have 34 things already: Blog, website and wiki

[15:31] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: ^ 3 things

[15:33] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: The website is at:

[15:33] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: http://www.iaoa.org/sig/swao/

[15:33] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: So we could have something like:

[15:33] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: www.iaoa.org/sig/swao/blog

[15:34] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: or www.iaoa.org/sig/swao-blog

[15:34] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Other SIG pages follow directly from www.iaoa.org without the intervening /sig/ fragment

[15:35] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: So it would make sense to have a conversation with Frank and Oliver to get our SIG pages consistent with the other SIG pages.

[15:35] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: Looking at the SWAO menu inks, they follow this example: http://www.iaoa.org/sig/swao/charter.html

[15:36] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: ^ menu links

[15:37] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Once we know what path we want, can we get blogspot to link to a sub-directory structure.

[15:37] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: ACTION: Bart will look into whether links to a sub directory can be done, since this is different to pointing just the IP address to a different place.

[15:37] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: It might not be trivial since you're linking sub directory versus IP.

[15:39] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Use of Question and Answer platforms (Bart)

[15:39] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We are inverting the use of the blog to be more like a Q and A platform.

[15:39] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: there are platofrms which do this: Quora, StackExchange

[15:40] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: StackExchange has different sites with different topics.

[15:40] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We coulc propose to create a new site for Semantic Web Applied Ontologies to be one of those sites.

[15:40] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: this also has features for people to rank answers, etc.

[15:40] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Also there are platforms you can install locally to do that.

[15:40] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Options are therefore 2:

[15:40] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 1. Propose a new site on StackExchange

[15:41] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: 2. Install the platform locally

[15:42] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Question: is (1) above a thing worth doing regardless of what we do with the blog?

[15:43] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: Here's the site where all StackExchange sites are listed: http://stackexchange.com/sites

[15:43] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: StackOverflow is one of the StackExchange sites. StackExchange is the platform itself.

[15:44] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Profile and reputation: these are kept separate but you can have an overall profile across the sites.

[15:45] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Currently any references to ontology seem to be on StackOverflow.

[15:45] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: There is also a philosophy StackExchange

[15:46] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: There is also a Philosophy one

[15:47] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Also Data Science

[15:47] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: Searching the sites for semantic web we find these results: http://stackexchange.com/search?q=semantic+web

[15:47] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: But nothing dedicated to ontologies and semantics.

[15:48] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We could create a StackExchange site whose name and scope are broad enough to embrace all the areas which this SIG intends to bring together and bridge the gaps between

[15:48] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Namely Semantic Web, applied ontology, ...

[15:48] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: cognitive computing?

[15:49] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: i.e. make this a one stop shop for all questions semantic and ontology based.

[15:49] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: these results fall under http://stackoverflow.com(the general technology related topics) and http://philosophy.stackexchange.com

[15:50] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We could then also get admins on the math and philosophy sites to move questions over to us if these are more relevant to our area.

[15:50] [[BartGajderowicz|Bart Gajderowicz]]: ^ http://stackoverflow.com

[15:51] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: We are not exactly a quorum but let's propose to do this, independently of whatever we do with the blog.

[15:52] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: ACTION: Bart will look into what is involved with creating a new StackExchange site.

[15:52] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: .

[15:52] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: On ethe earlier action: Blogspot does NOT allow for linking a blog to a path uner and existing URL.

[15:56] [[MikeBennett|Mike Bennett]]: Meeting ended 10:55 EDT


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