Ontolog Forum

Ontology Summit 2007 Organizing Committee Conference Call - Tuesday 01-May-2007

  • This session will a 30-minute conference call to do a postmortem and follow-up on the Summit F2F

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, May 01, 2007
  • Start Time: 8:30am PDT / 11:30am EDT / 5:30pm CET / 15:30 GMT/UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 30 minutes
  • Dial-in Number:
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    • Conference ID: "5823120#"
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  • Shared-screen support (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at:
    • view-only password: "ontolog"


  • Expecting: ( * = not yet confirmed whether he/she will be dialing-in)
    • FrankOlken* (NSF)
    • DeborahMcGuinness* (Stanford KSL)
    • IvanHerman* (W3C)
    • MarkMusen* (NCOR, NCBO, Stanford SMI)
    • NicolaGuarino* (LOA-CNR.IT)
    • ChrisWelty* (IBM Research)
    • TomGruber* (TagCommons)
  • Regrets:
    • BarrySmith* (sorry -- this overlaps with another call if this finishes early I will join in)

Agenda Ideas

  • do a postmortem and follow-up on the F2F meetings, and the overall summit
  • deliberate if we want to do a "next version" of the communique
  • tie up all loose-ends
  • ... (please post here; indentify yourself for follow-up purposes)

Agenda & Proceedings

1. Meeting called to order:

  • Steve Ray took the chair and welcomed everyone

2. Roll Call:

3. Issues to be covered today:

  • do a postmortem and follow-up on the F2F meetings, and the overall summit
  • deliberate if we want to do a "next version" of the communique
  • tie up all loose-ends
  • (a) a F2F meetings & (b) overall Summit postmortem,
    • what went well:
    • what needs improvement:
      • difficult to get people engaged earlier; not until it was almost the last week before the F2F
      • people kept misunderstanding the objective (and theme) of the Summit
        • reason: some had their own preconceived ideas or agenda for the Summit,
        • the voluminous exchange happening in parallel on [ontolog-forum] (which was mainly on fine points of formal ontologies) didn't help the cause
    • what will we do differently next time? ... how? ...
      • getting the strawman out earlier would have helped a lot
      • need to revisit the possibility of branching off a "formal-discussion" only forum (as we move Ontology activities more to the mainstream)
  • (c) deliberate on whether we want to initiate an next-version OntologySummit2007_Communique exercise,
    • For doing it:
    • Against doing it:
      • not the best use of the community's energy
      • too much work (to restart the entire community process) to gain consensus (of 50 or so people, now that they are dispersed)
    • Peter's suggestion:
      • just clean up typos, formatting and inconsistencies,
      • point to diagram and framework (slides)
      • clean up diagram and slides independently
    • Olivier: not uncomfortable with the slight inconsistencies; as the communique should only represent a snapshot of the deliberation upto the end of the Summit meetings
    • All: disposition - we'll:
      • clean up typos and formatting;
      • accept the communique as being a rather accurate snapshot of the state-of-affairs at the conclusion of the Summit;
      • solicit further refinement of the diagram and the framework;
      • make available a section/workspace on the wiki to accept people's suggestions and comments to the communique.
  • (d) follow-up actions
    • Peter to post and inform the community of the above disposition
    • Leo to ping Nicola to see how receptive he is to publish a report on Ontology Summit 2007 (similar to the UpperOntologySummit last year) on the "Applied Ontology" Journal.
      • if so, we'll solicit someone to take the lead to champion the write-up. This person will be lead author (like what Leo Obrst did last year), who will also invite others (who were actively involved in putting together this year's Summit) as co-authors for the report.
      • candidate champions: Michael Grüninger, DeborahMcGuinness & Frank Olken, ...
    • Olivier: another thing that would be worth doing is for someone (or some team) to work up an academic paper that encapsulates the idea of the framework, dimentsions and metrices for Ontologies, and then submit it for publication in the "Applied Ontology" journal. Anyone?

4. Any Other Business:

5. Adjourn:

  • this will be the last organizing committee conference call (for this year's Summit).
    • we'll do a similar review exercise with the community at this Thursday's Ontolog call - ref: ConferenceCall_2007_05_03
  • Thanks, everyone ... we'll look forward to 2008!
  • Call adjourned at: 9:10 am PDT ... great job!


notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2007.05.01-09:12 PDT

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.