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[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-05-19

Conference Call Details

  • Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-05-19
  • Agenda Comments:
    • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
    • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
    • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
      • view-only password: "ontolog"
      • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
    • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_05_19
  • Date: Thursday, May 19, 2005
  • Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock
  • Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
  • Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
  • Participant Access Code: "686564#"

Attendees

  • Expecting:

Agenda Ideas

Agenda & Proceedings

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

3) Roll-call of participants

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

  • Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
    • Regular member meeting
    • Invited speaker session
    • Scheduled discussion
    • Project review
    • Workshop / work session
    • Planning session
  • Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
    • Scheduled Events:
      • Thu 2005-05-26 - Monica Martin from Sun Microsystems - "Enhancing Business Processes Using Semantic Reasoning" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_05_26
      • Thu 2005-06-16 - David Whitten & ChrisRichardson from WorldVistA - Thu 2005-06-16 - confirmed (-ppy)
      • Thu 2005-07-14 - Anders Tell from Business Collaboration Toolsmiths, AB (Sweden) - suggested by Duane Nickull - confirmed
    • Potential Speaking Candidates:
      • LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
      • SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)
      • Doug Lenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)
      • Nicola Guarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAnderson or Chris Welty (suggested by Peter P. Yim & PatCassidy)
      • Jim Hendler (--suggested: ppy/2005.05.03)
      • Tim Berners-Lee (--suggested: Duane/2005.05.03)
      • Pat Hayes (--suggested: ppy/2005.05.03)
      • Jon Bosak of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session
        • possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or CEW-multiple CoP Best Practice event - Jun.2005? (SusanTurnbull)
    • General Suggestions:
      • a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)
        • possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE
      • Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
  • Scheduled Discussions
    • Next discussion scheduled for 06.30 to space around guest speaker
      • BillMcCarthy to lead the discussion
      • Proposed topic: Service Sciences (web services, service-oriented architectures, marketing, for profit). Economy is focusing on exchange of services, not products, raising concerns that too much e-commerce focused on products, not services. Ontological implications are unclear and should be explored. "Marketing Myopia" article in Harvard Business Review that relates marketing of products and services. Bill and Bob both have references which can be posted to orient participants and launch discussion. Often the purpose of a service is unclear and/or may not apply to the desired reuse context.
    • Notes
      • David: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.
      • see: Ontolog Discussion
      • more work/discussion on OWL
      • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
      • Nicolas: becoming clear that discussions on reasoning would be useful
        • Nicolas: Grit and Denker at SRI has just release a OWL/S editor for Protege-OWL - having them come to join in the discussion will be great
  • Recent & Upcoming Events of interest

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues

  • The new look of the Wiki is quite an improvement (white space improves readability)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls

  • Nothing to report

7) Current Project Status Report

  • Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work
    • Nothing to report. Waiting for Duane to coordinate w/ standards group.
  • Status of Protege-KIF project work
    • Nothing to report
  • Status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
    • Nothing concrete, but rumour to get summary of recommendations _relatively_ soon.
  • UBL liaison report
    • Nothing to report
  • SICoP liaison report
    • Tuesday's presentation was very good. Bob to post URLs.
  • Status report from Planning team
    • Conflicting schedules pre-empted possible meeting times. Everyone available after 05.27. Will be scheduling a session at that time to include Kurt Conrad, Bob Smith, Peter P. Yim, and LeoObrst.

8) Project work session / discussion

  • No activity at this meeting

9) New project proposals

  • Kurt Conrad commented on text formatting problems; text formatting is dark science.
  • Nicolas Rouquette and KurkConrad commented on the need of a calendar management function on the ontolog wiki.
  • suggestion: wiki/ontolog editor plugin
Is it possible to use the Eclipse wiki editor plugin for editing the ontolog wiki pages?
It would be great if it is possible to make this a user preference as an alternate solution to the current editor. The current editor is particularly annoying because it lacks vertical resizing to maximize the use of the browser window real estate.
  • suggestion: ontolog calendar & ontolog's internal ontology project
How about using some of the techniques discussed here: http://esw.w3.org/topic/EventDiscovery to use ontology-assisted event search across the ontolog wiki to compile a calendar that shows the user a "projection" of all of the events found in the ontological search of the ontolog forum.
Twiki support for calendar here: http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-listpages.php?find=meeting+calendar&search=find&sort_mode=pageName_asc
For example, we could define a "meeting call" projection that would filter out events related to some notion of what a "meeting call" is, e.g., invited speakers, scheduled discussions, discussions on other related groups like the semantic web best practices', sciop, etc...
For example, if I want to know what are the upcoming technical discussions but I don't know what is the term used for referring to such meetings, then I should be able to type: "technical discussion meeting", type "show calendar" and, using SUMO's definition of the words I typed, search for synonyms that correspond to pre-defined calendar projections -- eg., "scheduled technical discussion" in this case as the "most likely" match, and perhaps other possible matches as well. Then, ask the user to select one of the pre-defined calendar projections or ask the user to use an advanced calendar projection to build his/her own projection criteria.
It would be especially neat if we could "package" this mechanism as a kind of "tutorial/example" of an "ontology-enhanced" application capability (brought to you by yours truly, ontolog)

10) Sponsorship and funding

  • Nothing to report

11) Other business

  • Nothing to report

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

  • Call adjourned 11:27 PST
  • Next call will be on Thu 2005.05.26 starting at 10:30am PST

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Minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Kurt Conrad



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