Ontolog Forum
Ontology Summit 2007 Organizing Committee Meeting - Tue 2007.01.30
- Topic: First Meeting (v1.1, continuation) of the full Organizing Committee for OntologySummit2007
- Session Chair: SteveRay (NIST)
Conference Call Details
- Date: Tuesday, January 30, 2007
- Start Time: 8:00am PST / 11:00am EST / 5:00pm CET / 16:00 GMT/UTC
- ref: World Clock
- Expected Call Duration: 1.0 hours
- Dial-in Number:
- from a telephone (US): +1-605-475-8590 (South Dakota, USA)
- from a phone (Europe): 0870-738-0763(UK) or 01805 00 7620 (Germany)
- callers from other countries please dial into either one of the US or European numbers
- Conference ID: "5823120#"
- Direct call from from Skype: +990008275823120
- Shared-screen support (VNC session), if applicable, will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
- view-only password: "ontolog"
- RSVP to peter.yim@cim3.com appreciated.
Attendees
- Attended
- Steve Ray (NIST)
- Peter P. Yim (Ontolog, CIM3)
- Olivier Bodenreider (NLM, NIH)
- Leo Obrst (Ontolog, MITRE)
- Ivan Herman (W3C)
- David Weinberger (Harvard Berkman Center for Internet & Society)
- Expecting
- Frank Olken (NSF)
- Barry Smith (NCOR, SUNY-Buffalo)
- Chris Welty (IBM Research)
- Regrets:
- DeborahMcGuinness (Stanford KSL)
- Mark Musen (NCOR, NCBO, Stanford SMI)
- Nicola Guarino (LOA-CNR.IT)
Agenda Ideas
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Agenda & Proceedings
1. Meeting called to order:
- Steve Ray took the chair and welcomed everyone
- Peter P. Yim volunteered to take minutes of the meeting
2. Roll Call:
- see above
3. Urgent Issues:
- Mailing list distribution issue - ref: http://interop.cim3.net/forum//ontology-summit-org/2007-01/msg00027.html
- confirm now OK: Leo, Chris & David
- still missing response from: Frank
4. Outstanding Issues:
- introduction among the members
- aligning everyone's expectations as well as their understanding of our objectives
5. New Issues:
- 2007.01.18 Launch Meeting postmortem
- Organizing Committee Membership
- missing responses / confirmations
- more web 2.0 representation - maybe as convener; ping other organizing committee members for suggestion
- David (and his friend Peter Merholv) suggested: Gene, Karen, Margaret, Chiara & Paolo
- David will try to engage these people on our behalf (or see who else they would suggest)
- invitations have since been extended to those individuals
- as well as to PaolaDiMaio (current Ontolog member)
- David (and his friend Peter Merholv) suggested: Gene, Karen, Margaret, Chiara & Paolo
- discussion: our deliverables
- 3 months of virtual discourse
- 3 half-day face-to-face technical workshop
- (a) ...
- (b) ...
- (c) ...
- a half-day open public meeting (with press)
- a written communique
- new: how about a poster? (--suggested: ppy / 2007.01.22)
- discussion: our approach & process
- Nicola: short position papers
- Leo: hope the wiki page will help contain that ... with "gardeners" to administer them
- David / Steve / Peter : defining ontologies should not be the goal here ... more like reaching an understanding of what each community refers to when they say "ontology"
- Steve / David: think we should need to be "very approachable" and simple, at least at first encounter
- Ivan: no need to draw distinction between EU and US semantic web communities
- Ivan: Chris Welty is chairing a Rules working group that is also putting rules and reasoning into a similar framework
- Ivan: be careful on the use of the word "ontology" because it scares away the layman ... I use "vocabulary", but that probably isn't the right word
- Leo: I would make distinction between "terminology" and "ontology"
- Nicola: short position papers
- Assessment of current progress
- seeding the discussion?
- assigning / self-selecting thread moderators?
- co-editor volunteers solicitation?
- distributing the organizing chore
- engaging participants from specific target communties
- formal ontologist
- XML community - OASIS - Peter to contact Patrick Gannon
- semantic web communities
- RDF community
- OWL-DL (discription logic) community
- OWL full community
- the Applications Development community
- database community
- UML community - Steve: will ask Conrad Bock & Evan Wallace; Leo: Elisa Kendall too ... it's great that they all straddle both ontologies and object models
- software engineering / programmer community
- FOAF community - Ivan: it is spread out and no one seems to be leading now
- Micro-Formats (GRDDL) community - ?
- Concept Map community
- SEARCH community - Chris Welty might point us to something given IBM's work in UIMA
- statistical
- semantic
- wiki & semantic wiki community -
- Web 2.0 community (social network, folksonomy) - David is championing
- Ivan: suggesting again Tom Gruber - Peter: DeborahMcGuinness will be the person to help us, hopefully
- Tom Gruber contacted and confirmed (--ppy/2007.02.01 with help from PatHayes)
- Ivan: suggesting again Tom Gruber - Peter: DeborahMcGuinness will be the person to help us, hopefully
- Thesauri community - Christiane Fellbaum
- metadata world / dublin core / SKOS / Librarians / Taxonomists / KM community - Denise Bedford; Ivan also suggests Thomas Baker
- ISO-11179 folks - Frank Olken is our man
- drafting the communique
- ...
- Leo: 10 dimensions (see 1/25/07 post); get people to post under an appropriate subject line
- Olivier: take advantage of the wiki; list the things that we don't want to discussed
- Peter: as Steve mentioned, I'll "garden" the wiki, but I'll need help
- engaging participants from specific target communties
6. Any Other Business:
- to get W3C's official involvement in this initiative, Ivan suggests:
- contact Ian Jacobs <ij-at-w3.org> who is the communications chair
- mention that Chris and Ivan are already involved in the organizing committee
- W3C might be more receptive to "co-sponsor" than "co-organizer"
- Steve will make a post to get the conversation organized
- Peter will send an invitation to Thomas Baker and refer him to Ivan
7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:
- it is agreed that the next meeting will be a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 6-Feb-2007 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST / 5:30pm CET.
- ref: world clock
- Regular Weekly Meetings:
- choice of regular weekly sync-up call time slot - 30 minutes, starting: Tuesdays 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST
- Nicola's preference Monday through Thursday 1:30~2:30pm EST / 10:30~11:30am PST / 7:30~8:30pm CET -- Thursdays are out because of a conflict with regularly scheduled Ontolog events
- Deborah's suggested: Mon, Tue or Wednesdays, 11:30am~12:30pm EST / 8:30~9:30am PST / 5:30~6:30pm CET; sometimes i could make 8am PST / 11am EST / 5pm CET on friday
- Steve: The one day I can't meet is Wednesdays after 1:30pm EST / 10:30am PST / 7:30pm CET
- Ivan: Tuesday evening would be *ideal* for me at those times. Mondays and Wednesdays are not
- choice of regular weekly sync-up call time slot - 30 minutes, starting: Tuesdays 8:30am PST / 11:30am EST
possible *at all* at those times.
- Peter: Tuesdays are ok now ... I have rescheduled other things to open up Tuesdays now.
- Call adjourned at: 9:02am PST / 12:02pm EST
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notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2007.01.30-9:02am PST
All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.