Ontolog Forum

Ontology Summit 2007 Organizing Committee Conference Call - Tuesday 13-Mar-2007

  • This session will a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 13-Mar-2007 8:30am PDT / 11:30am EDT / 4:30pm CET / 15:30 GMT/UTC

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2007
  • Start Time: 8:30am PDT / 11:30am EDT / 4:30pm CET / 15:30 GMT/UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 30 minutes
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  • Attended:
    • OlivierBodenreider* (NLM, NIH)
    • Peter P. Yim (Ontolog, CIM3)
    • BarrySmith* (NCOR, SUNY-Buffalo)
  • Expecting: ( * = not yet confirmed whether he/she will be dialing-in)
    • FrankOlken* (NSF)
    • MarkMusen* (NCOR, NCBO, Stanford SMI)
    • NicolaGuarino* (LOA-CNR.IT)
  • Regrets:

Agenda Ideas

  • Discuss - what could ensure us that we are bringing "value" to the community-at-large, with this "Ontology Summit 2007" endeavor?
  • organizing committee structure and protocol - distributing the workload
  • getting organized to get dialogs from representatives of other constituencies (other than formal ontologists) going - review/add/comment on list of people who could represent various constituencies and contribute to providing their input and perspectives
  • getting organized to summarize/synthesize the mailing list discussions on the wiki - devoting part of the 15-Mar-2007 Ontolog weekly call to do it with Summit conveners
  • Deborah: I suggest that in this and in near term meetings we try to get very tight scope;
  • ... (please post here; indentify yourself for follow-up purposes)

Agenda & Proceedings

... (Agenda Coming)

1. Meeting called to order:

2. Roll Call:

3. Urgent Issues:

  • Having a 'framework' ready, when inputs are returned on our survey.
  • getting the community-specific discussions going:
    • see (communities enumerated):
    • and (champions we have in mind):
    • action: ...
      • Ivan: consider asking people to identify what community they belong to
      • Nicola: we catalog, and map out the framework
      • Peter: ask various communities to put together a glossary of their ontology (or ontology-related) vocabulary
      • Steve / Nicola: ask various community representative to where they think they fit in
      • try getting Tom Gruber to present his view some time soon, that is going to help - Tom has posted, both on 'ontology' and on 'folksonomy'. Thanks, Tom!
      • Steve: steer away from the word 'ontology' and just ask other communities how they define their 'structures'
      • Olivier / Steve: we should be the USGS (cartographers) rather than the UN (peacekeepers) of 'ontologies' here.
      • Steve / Leo: start putting something up (a draft) so that people have something to talk about
        • cadidates to drive the drafting: Leo Obrst, Michael Grüninger, ... with support from Steve, Olivier
        • start from the draft communique wiki page ... and have anyone contribute even small chunks (without major time commitments)
        • maybe someone could start by drafting a table-of-content - Steve?
        • when ready for another round of reviews, someone makes a post to [ontology-summit] list
        • use combination of wiki, spreadsheet (google spreadsheet for collaborative editing, and excel for the purpose)
      • thanks to DeborahMcGuinness, she has volunteered to co-lead the ontology spectrum discussion and writeup.
  • Discussion:
    • Good News! - Olivier advises that NLM has officially confirmed that we may list them as a 'co-sponsor'. (Thank you, Olivier!)
    • What could ensure us that we are bringing "value" to the community-at-large (or even the world-at-large), with this "Ontology Summit 2007" endeavor?

4. Outstanding Issues:

  • Surveying participants & getting constituency champions' perspectives
    • Peter: please review and comment on draft-2 of survey questions (for process proposal-2):
      • draft-2 questionnaire:
      • Peter is posted to the [ontology-summit-org] list on 2007.03.12, a list of folks who could represent perspectives of various constituencies. Input solicited from organizing committee members.
      • Peter is still working on the survey; he will move ahead and release the survey; and then personal contact to targeted champions to get their inputs. Help to spread this workload appreciated.
    • Peter: we'll give people 7~10 days to respond
    • Barry / Olivier: if people provide elaborate answers, we'll request them to summarize it in bullet points
  • Outstanding Issue Update:
    • organizing committee structure and protocol
      • Barry: splitting the championship role - suggestions/candidates:
        • Folksonomy: Tom Gruber
        • Taxonomy: Denise Bedford
        • Metadata: Frank Olken
        • Semantic Web: Ivan Herman
        • Information Models: ?
          • Peter: e.g. the UML people
          • Barry: e.g. Oil & Gas work Matthew West is doing should be in this category
            • Peter our objective is to develop a typology (rather than telling people how they should use the word "ontology")
              • Barry suggested we still consider establishing a "controlled vocabulary"
        • Olivier / Barry: try to engage Frank Hartel (Peter suggest Olivier contacts Frank as a champion), also Christopher Chute; Peter re-iterates the solicitation for suggestions to his constituency/champion post
    • pending responses
      • organizing committee / keynote: Dieter Fensel, TimBernersLee
      • conveners: Chiara F, Thomas B (pending - ref: "key participant" role confirmation)
    • Public Relations & The Press - Steve taking this on
      • Steve already working on a pre-event press release; hopefully one or two articles out before the F2F
    • scheduling and programming for the Apr. 23 & 24, 2007 face-to-face meetings and symposium
      • Monday am: "The Framework" (Agreeing to the final picture) - Co-chairs: Leo Obrst / MichaelGruninger?
      • Monday pm: "Populating the Framework" (Endorsing the picture) - Co-chairs: Chris Welty / Tom Gruber
      • (Tueday early am: NIST Interoperability Week Plenary)
      • Tueday am: Finalizing the Communique - Co-Chair: Olivier Bodenreider / FrankOlken?
      • Tueday pm: The Symposium (public meeting) - Chair: Steve Ray
        • Keynote: Tom Gruber
        • Panel: ... (tbd)
          • ... we'll try to feature people who can represent the different perspectives of the various constituencies and those who made substantive contribution in the discourse.
(we are trying to come to conslusions even BEFORE the face-to-face)

5. New Issues:

  • drafting the communique
  • solicitng "co-sponsorship" - please endorse the initiative; they have to choose on the conclusion - Peter to do it.

6. Any Other Business:

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • ALL: we will continue the discussion of today's agenda items on the [ontology-summit-org] list
  • Next Meeting: (candidate) unless otherwise re-scheduled (which we likely will) our next meeting will be a 30-minute conference call starting at Tue 20-Mar-2007 8:30am PDT / 11:30am EDT / 4:30pm CET / 15:30 UTC. (ref: world clock)
  • Call adjourned at: 8:00 am PDT


notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2007.03.13-8:05 PDT

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.