Ontolog Forum
[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-05-05
Conference Call Details
- Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-05-05
- Agenda Comments:
- ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
- please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
- VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
- view-only password: "ontolog"
- view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
- Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_05_05
- Date: Thursday, May. 05, 2005
- Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock
- Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
- Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#"
Attendees
- Expecting:
- Regrets:
Agenda Ideas
Agenda & Proceedings
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda
- Peter P. Yim took the chair and welcomed everyone.
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes
- Peter P. Yim volunteered
3) Roll-call of participants
- see above
4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)
- Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
- member regular meeting
- invited speaker session
- scheduled discussion
- project review
- workshop / work session
- planning
- Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
- Thu 2005-05-12 - Mark Greaves from DARPA - "Future of Semantic Web Technologies at DARPA" - confirmed
- Thu 2005-05-26 - Monica Martin from Sun Microsystems - confirmed
- Thu 2005-06-16 - David Whitten & ChrisRichardson from WorldVistA - Thu 2005-06-16 - confirmed (-ppy)
- Thu 2005-07-14 - Anders Tell from Business Collaboration Toolsmiths, AB (Sweden) - suggested by Duane Nickull - confirmed
- future candidates speakers:
- LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)
- SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)
- Doug Lenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)
- Nicola Guarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAnderson or Chris Welty (suggested by Peter P. Yim & PatCassidy)
- new suggestions:
- a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)
- possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE
- Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group
- Jon Bosak of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session
- possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or CEW-multiple CoP Best Practice event - Jun.2005? (SusanTurnbull)
- a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)
- new suggestions:
- Jim Hendler (--suggested: ppy/2005.05.03)
- Tim Berners-Lee (--suggested: Duane/2005.05.03)
- Pat Hayes (--suggested: ppy/2005.05.03)
- Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months
- David: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.
- see: Ontolog Discussion
- more work/discussion on OWL
- Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
- Nicolas: becoming clear that discussions on reasoning would be useful
- Nicolas: Grit and Denker at SRI has just release a OWL/S editor for Protege-OWL - having them come to join in the discussion will be great
- Recent & Upcoming Events of interest
- eGov: Collaborative Expedition Workshop #40 - Tue 2005-05-17 - attendance in person at the National Science Foundation (Ballston, VA) or by remote dial-in. Please RSVP to Renee.hughes@gsa.gov if you plan to join us.
- Stanford Clinical Informatics seminar series; events on 5/6; 5/13; 5/20 & 5/27/2005 - see: http://clinicalinformatics.stanford.edu/scci_seminars/2004-05.html
- In particular, Mark Musen will be speaking on Fri 2005.05.27 (was 2005.04.22 - note change of date) on "The Role of Ontologies in the Electronic Health Record."
- Monica: was at the OASIS Symposium last week, quite a bit of talk about ontologies - look out for the availability of some of those presentations (Monica will make posts about them when she sees something relevant.)
- interest and awareness is rising
- slides from the symposium are now available at http://www.oasis-open.org/events/symposium_2005/proceedings.php (--Monica / 2005.05.11)
5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues
- change of the regular Thursday conference call time - only 2 people suggested a change - disposition?
- Nicolas: accomodating the W3C SWBP participants should be attempted
- consider accomodating European attendance
- Kurt: let's bring this up at the planning committee
- Peter: people need to feel strongly enough to make a post about it and propose something
- Job opening(s) available - how about a "Job Openings" or "Classified Ad" page on our wiki that we allow talent searchers looking for ontologists (and related expertise) to make short posts themselves? t/b discussed - reviews pros and cons. (--ppy/2005.04.27, idea from an email he received from someone who is searching for the 'perfect ontologist'.)
- Nicolas: can we setup a semantic filter to discern and block abusers -- this could even be a discussion topical
- Nicolas: try to be aware of the legal implications too
- Kurt: let's take it up at planning
6) Follow-ups from previous calls
- wonderful discussion last week - vote of appreciations to NicolasRouquette!
- what worked?
- Peter: it's been great
- Kurt: glad they are captured in an audio archive ... that is really helpful
- what needs improvement?
- Nicolas: could improve on getting the prep material ready earlier ... and to "get to know" the participants before the session
- too few people are paricipating real time
- Kurt: we could go around have people set expectations and requirements
- Peter: more lead time, invite people who could seed the discussion with subject experts (and have them do a few minutes overview of their work)
- what worked?
7) Current Project Status Report
- Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work
- Status of Protege-KIF project work
- Kurt gave a short debrief on the work session at SMI on Mon 2005.04.25
- lesson: practice is quite different from theory (not that this is anything new)
- status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
- see Brand's report to the NHIN-RFI review team - http://web-services.gov/nhinrfiontology04052005.ppt
- UBL liaison report - no report
- SICoP liaison report
- note the new setup of the ONTAC-WG - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SICoP/OntologyTaxonomyCoordinatingWG
- status report from Planning team
- planning team session today? (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologPlanning_2005#nidC3D)
- Kurt: rescheduling the meeting ... will have to be after 2005.05.17
- Peter: I will be out of town between 5/17~5/22/05
8) project work session / discussion
9) New project proposals
- starting a wikipedia-like effort on this wiki - champion needed: David? (--proposed:ppy/2005.05.05_07:05_PDT)
- start with putting stubs on key terms, and an initial explanation or definition (and leave out the latter)
- maybe even kif axioms eventually, who knows
- Kurt: let's take this up on planning
- Peter: we can link over to wikipedia (and other wikis') content now through our wiki's InterMap feature
- Peter: Champion solicted - once we have a champion, the chances of getting the project off the ground increases dramatically!
10) Sponsorship and funding - no discussion
11) Other business - no discussion
12) Next meeting date and adjourn
- call adjourned 11:46am PST
- next call will be on Thu 2005.05.12 starting at 10:30am PST
- it will be the talk by Mark Greaves from DARPA - see: ConferenceCall_2005_05_12
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minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim
ppy / 2005.05.05_11:48_PDT