Ontolog Forum
Joint SICoP-Ontolog Scheduled Discussion session - Nov. 10, 2005
This is a Joint SICoP-Ontolog Event, held virtually over an augmented phone conference, as well as on-site for the SICoP Meeting venue at Lockheed-Martin (Reston, VA).
- Topic: eGov-related Ontology Community Efforts: Differentiation & Synergy
- Moderator: Brand Niemann
- Organizing Team: Brand Niemann, Peter P. Yim
- Panelists:
- Peter Brown (EU), Suzi Lewis (cBiO), Barry Smith (NCOR), Peter P. Yim (Ontolog), Pat Cassidy (ONTACWG/COSMO), Marc Wine (HITOP), Steve Ray (NIST)
- Ideas and preparation:
- topic first proposed by Brand Niemann & Peter P. Yim on 2005.10.24
- Preparation page - goto /Prep
Conference Call Details
- Date: Thursday, November 10, 2005
- Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Standard Time / 1:30 PM Eastern Standard Time / 18:30 UTC (see world clock for other time zones)
- Duration: 2.0 hours
- Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#"
- Shared-screen support (VNC session) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
- view-only password: "ontolog"
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- Please note that this session will be recorded, and the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.
Attendees
- Attended:
- Brand Niemann
- Peter P. Yim
- Barry Smith
- Pat Cassidy
- Antoinette Arsic (Mitre)
- Olivier Bodenreider
- Rex Brooks
- Bob Smith
- Kurt Conrad
- Steve Ray
- Adrian Walker
- Duane Nickull
- Walt Truszkowski (NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center)
- Suzi Lewis
- Lowell Bizenor (NLM)
- ChrisRichardson
- Monica Martin
- Gary Berg-Cross
- RonSchuldt
- Jean Stanford (Mitre)
- Denise Bedford
- David Whitten
- BrandNiemannJr
- Leo Obrst
- Marc Wine
- Michael Belanger (SemanTx Life Sciences)
- Expected:
- Mitch Ringer
- Cory Casanave (Data Access Technologies, Working for GSA OsEra and Executable EA projects)
- Joe Chiusano
- Harry Pape (USAF Academy)
- Shirley Skorbiansky (World Bank, ISGEC-Information Quality Team)
- Grant Gustafson (Software AG - echnical Services)
- ...(to register for participation, please add your name here or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support the session.)...
- Regrets:
- Mark Musen (in Galway, Ireland, Chairing the International Semantic Web Conference 2005 (ISWC2005))
- Susan Golden
- David Martin (in Ireland for the ISWC2005)
- Jonathan Cheyer
- Elisa Kendall (in Ireland for the ISWC2005)
- Dagobert Soergel
- Mills Davis
- Peter Brown
- Delayed Listener:
Agenda & Proceedings
- Dr. Brand Niemann, from US Environmental Protection Agency and chairman of SICoP, will be moderating this discussion session
- See Background Materials
- Abstract:
- Ontologies and Ontology Engineering are emerging with a bright future in eGovernment for Enterprise Architecture, Data Architecture, Knowledge Computing, and Electronic Health Information, to mention a few.
- NCOR provides a critical link in the public-academic-private partnership needed to provide high quality ontologies and ontological engineering applications to eGovernment.
- Pertinent Issues we might explore during this session:
- The panel consists of public (PeterBrown, Marc Wine, and SteveRay), academic (MarkMusen, Barry Smith, and DagobertSoergel), and private (PeterYim, Pat Cassidy, and MillsDavis) representatives all working with ontologies.
- So how can we better understand our differences and best organize ourselves to collaborate to achieve common goals and synergy?
- Session Format: this is be a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call
- 1. we'll go around with a self-introduction of participants (10~15 minutes)
- 2. Introduction of Moderator and Panelists
- 3. Opening by Moderator
- 4. 5-minute introductory presentation by each panelist on their community effort and focus
- 5. follow by a 5-minute Q&A on the specific community being introduced
- 6. then, a moderated open discussion by the panel and all participants
- 7. Summary / Conclusion / Follow-up (Moderator)
- Moderator and Panelists' prepared slides or material (if there is any) can be accessed by pointing your web browsers to:
- Input & Slides to be presented during this session are accesible by licking on the links below: (uploaded items can also be found in our filesharing workspace)
- from Brand Niemann - ConferenceCall_2005_11_10/SICoP & ConferenceCall_2005_11_10/DrmIt2 - October Was Ontology Month! so "How Do We Collectively Make 2006 The Year of the Ontology? (Science and High-Quality Applications)"
- from Peter Brown - EU Policy Work on Semantic Interoperability
- from Suzi Lewis - ConferenceCall_2005_11_10/CBiO - The National Center for Biomedical Ontology (cBiO)
- from Barry Smith - /Ncor - Five Steps to Interoperability
- from Peter P. Yim - /Ontolog - The Ontolog Community - Differentiation and Potential Contribution
- from Pat Cassidy & Dagobert Soergel - ConferenceCall_2005_11_10/OntagWg & ConferenceCall_2005_11_10/CosmoWg - The Ontology and Taxonomy Coordinating Working Group (ONTACWG) Work Plan; (ONTACWG backup slide)
- from Marc Wine - /Hitop - Federal Health IT Ontology Project (HITOP) Group
- from Steve Ray - ConferenceCall_2005_11_10/NistMsid - Interoperability in the Manufacturing Sector
- from Mills Davis - (NCOR Outreach) - please help supply the requested information below.
- a matrix of the ontology community profiles (for those represented today)
- links to additional relevant resources:
- refer to "Background Materials" section below
- (please post any additional resources here)
- Any material outside of the prepared presentation, if they are called up during the session, may be shared under the VNC session detailed above
- Input & Slides to be presented during this session are accesible by licking on the links below: (uploaded items can also be found in our filesharing workspace)
Questions, Answers & Discourse
- If you have questions for the panel, we appreciate your posting them as instructed below: (please identify yourself)
- experimental: try using the queue management chat tool at: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontolog_20051110
- instructions: once you got access to the page, click on the "settings" button, and identify yourself (by modifying the Name field). You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen.
- ... (you may also post you questions below, the moderator & panel will be fielding them during the open discussion) ...
- For those who have further questions or remarks on the topic, please post them to the [ontolog-forum] so that everyone in the community can benefit from the discourse.
- experimental: try using the queue management chat tool at: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontolog_20051110
- new Questions (this session)
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- For those who have further questions and discussion on this topic, please post them to the ontolog forum so that we can all benefit from the discourse.
- Session ended 2005.11.10 3:38pm EST / 12:38pm PST
Background Materials
- 1. Peter Brown:
- Chair, CEN eGovernment Focus Group
- Senior Expert, eGovernment - Legal, Organisational and International Issues, Austrian Federal Chancellery
- Co-Editor, OASIS SOA Reference Model
- Semantic Integration Strategies, March 22, 2005, Head of Information Resources Management Unit at the European Parliament
- European Commission IDABC Semantic Interoperability:
- Workshop
- Paper
- Also in DKR
- Proceedings.
- Also see IDABC Site Map.
- Semantic Interoperability Assets:
- Dictionaries
- Thesauri
- Multilingual thesauri
- Nomenclatures
- Cross-references and mapping tables
- Ontologies
- Service registries
- Milestones:
- Production of a pivot ontology of life & business events connected to administrative activities.
- Publication of the ontology on the Clearinghouse server.
- EU Work on Content Ontologies:
- 2. Suzi Lewis, Co-Principal Investigator, cBiO & Mark Musen, Director, NCOR-Stanford & Principal Investtigator, cBiO:
- 3. Barry Smith, Director NCOR-Buffalo:
- Inaugural Event of the National Center for Ontological Research
- Relations in Biomedical Ontologies, Genome Biology, 2005, 6 (5)
- Principles for Building Biomedical Ontologies:
- Univocity
- Positivity
- Objectivity
- Single Inheritance
- Definitions Formal definitions Written definitions
- Basis in Reality
- Universals & Instances
- Ontology Alignment
- 4. Peter P. Yim, Ontolog Forum and CODS:
- The Ontolog Community - Differentiation and Potential Contribution (extended version of today's presntation, with an appendix.)
- Developing Semantic Technologies in a Collaborative Work Environment
- A Collaborative Ontology Development Service & Infrastructure (CODS)
- Collaborative Ontology Development Services (CODS) Starts at Slide 18.
- 5. Pat Cassidy with Dagobert Soergel, ONTACWG / COSMO-WG:
- Possible Source of Grants for Some Work on COSMO
- Eric Peterson, SICoP Pilot: An OWL-based Schema as an Implementation for the DRM Abstract Model
- ONTACWG Work Plan Based on First ONTACWG Meeting and Coordination with NCOR
- 6. Marc Wine, HITOP:
- Federal Health IT Ontology Project (HITOP) Group
- MarkRoest's post: VistA VA hospital information management system with a very large medical care ontology that has resulted in an 85% reduction in wrong drug administration and top rankings on the Quality of Care indices for large U.S. hospital systems (see WorldVistA.org for open source version). Has the group considered the very large medical care ontology embodied in VistA, the VA hospital information management system with hundreds of vertical applications? WorldVistA.org is taking it open source and free, very actively now. If your work can be tailored to augment their work, in collaboration with them, it might strengthen the most important medical informatics system in existence.
- LeoECousineauMD's post: We have used an ontology approach to the EHR and have a brief overview and a live demo will presented at the Sunshine group during the HIMSS meeting in February 06.
- 7. Steve Ray:
- 8. Mills Davis (iECM, NCOR Outreach):
- NCOR Outreach:
- As an NCOR delegate, I think you will agree that the inaugural event went very well, and that there is a lot before us to do to realize the vision. I've volunteered to work on NCOR outreach planning. As we get started, I'd like to ask your help with three issues:
- 1. Please send me a statement and or links to materials that would help us introduce your organization, interests in ontology, and goals for NCOR. This is to help put together a short backgrounder on the NCOR inaugural event, that would introduce the delegates.
- 2. Please take a moment to identify key organizations (public, private) that were not at the inaugural event, but with whom we should talk with about joining, partnering, or otherwise becoming involved with NCOR. Please provide contact information.
- 3. Please identify those media publishers, associations, and events that you feel NCOR should work with as part of its outreach. Also, if you have any other suggestions, or would like to become involved with the outreach committee, please do not hesitate to contact me or Werner Ceusters.
- As an NCOR delegate, I think you will agree that the inaugural event went very well, and that there is a lot before us to do to realize the vision. I've volunteered to work on NCOR outreach planning. As we get started, I'd like to ask your help with three issues:
- Interoperable Enterprise Content Management (iECM)
- New SBIRs
- NCOR Outreach:
Session Recording of this Ontology Communities Panel Discussion
(Thanks to Kurt Conrad and Peter P. Yim for their help with getting the session recorded. =ppy)
- To download the audio recording of the presentation, click here
- the playback of the audio files require the proper setup, and an MP3 compatible player on your computer.
- Conference Date and Time: Nov. 10, 2005 10:36am~12:37pm Pacific Standard Time
- Duration of Recording: 1 Hour 58 Minutes (after editing)
- Recording File Size: 27.6 MB (in mp3 format)
- Telephone Playback Expiration Date: Nov. 20, 2005 11:56 AM Pacific Std Time
- Prior to the above Expiration Date, one can call-in and hear the telephone playback of the session.
- Playback Dial-in Number: 1-805-620-4002 (Ventura, CA)
- Playback Access Code: 634638#
- suggestion: best that you listen to the session while having the above material opened in front of you. You'll be prompted to advance slides by the speaker.