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OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Wed 2008-03-21

  • OpenOntologyRepository team conference call, Wed 2008.03.21, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EST / 9:00am PST / 17:00 GMT/UTC

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Friday, March 21, 2008
  • Start Time: 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC
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Agenda Ideas

  • (please insert content below; identify yourself for follow-up purposes)
  • Peter P. Yim: status review on the 3 upcoming joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27, 4/3 & 4/10)
  • discuss the relationship of this initiative to other organizations like Ontolog, sponsors, funders, etc.

Agenda and Proceedings

1. Meeting called to order:

  • review and adopt agenda

2. Roll Call:

3. Status Review and Discussion:

  • What's New:
  • Logistics and Communications
  • Discussions:
  • Fabian suggests we clarify the distinction between the summit discourse and the final adoption into the OOR development effort by the OOR-team.
    • He will make a post to let the community know that if we have all the options covered on one issue (ref. "gatekeeping" for example), we can move on to the next issue
  • Preparation progress review on the 3 upcoming joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27, 4/3 & 4/10):
    • see developing working page - OOR/JointPanelSession_Strawman
    • Leo & Fabian confirmed that they will co-chair both the 3/27 & 4/3 panels on "expectation and requirements."
  • Resources and Funding:
  • Funding: getting organized
    • possibilities - government agencies (NSF?, NIST?, whoever would fund open infrastructure, DARPA, IARPA (Jeff), ... etc.); EU funders; Vulcan (Mark)?; bring in W3C in a exploratory (XG) working group (e.g. Semantic Web Deployment) (although they are a funding sink rather than a funding source; but good for visibility);   
    • grant proposal team(s) / submit proposal(s) to
    • Frank: NSF next solicitations due July-1, interop, data network partners, programs coming back
      • consider NSF-OCI (Office of Cyber Infrastructure)
    • try contacting Todd Hughes and see if DARPA is a possibility (Leo)
    • Peter: consider multiple smalls proposals and a big one ($20 million +/-) to make OOR a sustainable OOR operation
    • consider Foundations, and institutions like Vulcan (Peter).
      • Peter: Mark G already responded that funding chances are low, but possibility of collaboration with HALO ontologies hosted on OOR
    • Fabian: the climate at NIST (now that they are hosting the summit on this particular theme) would be conducive ... we should ping Steve on this.
    • we should set aside some off-line time to discuss this when some of us are at the summit F2F
  • Use Cases & Requirements <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)
    • soliciting 'early adopter' partners who can offer up their ontologies, help refine requirements, and provide user feedback.
    • see above discussion ref. the two upcoming joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel sessions (3/27 & 4/2)
  • Organization & Process
    • need to clearly identify team membership: active members vs. observers; and, more importantly, who are voting (decision making) members?
      • Active members: those who will be (a) building the OOR, and (b) those who will be early adopters with content (open ontologies) AND specific requirement input to provide -- does that sound good? (Yes: Peter, Bruce, Fabian)
      • will need to deliberate on this when we have more people on the call ... and/or doing it through the mailing list
    • how shall we organize ourselves? ... sub-workgroups? how many? <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)
    • relationship to Ontolog? sponsors? funders?
      • discussion postponed until we have a clearer approach toward funding)
  • Deliverables: <--(discussion from last meeting)
    • 'target something we can "show" from this OOR effort at the Ontology Summit 2008 workshop
    • Bruce: I will be out of pocket 3/25 to 4/12
    • Farrukh: this is too short a time to get a demo together; maybe we should only consider developing a demo scenario, and present the OOR-team's Strategy, Plans and Roadmap
      • Rex: is it possible to show something tangible too?
      • Farrukh: let's present the 'what', not the 'how'
      • presenting the vision at the summit F2F
      • Bruce: let's present something we have accomplished rather than something we are planning to accomplish
      • Michelle: will clarify time allocation at F2F - put in a 1.5-Hr request <--adopted
      • Peter: suggest we put together task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the implementation folks) - Bruce, Mike, Mark, Farrukh, Evan & Peter
      • Peter: alternate suggestion for the task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the co-chairs) - Leo, Frank Fabian, Barry, Pat
      • Bruce: propose to have Leo and Peter to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker <--adopted
        • updated/2008.03.21 with Bruce's concurrence - Leo Obrst, Mike Dean and Peter P. Yim to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker
        • Leo: I could kick off the presentation in the overview, and then have individual speakers for each section (we'll be looking for volunteers) <--adopted
      • Leo: start asking all panelists (in the 4 sessions) to come up with a 2-slide summary <--adopted
        • all speakers are requested to send in a 2-slide summary of their brief (in addition to the slide deck they use during the briefing) for use in a presentation that the OOR-team will be making at the Ontology Summit 2008 face-to-face workshop
      • Ravi: two threads here - (a) summary of what's going on, (b) how we are thinking about the roadmap to implementation
      • Leo: summarizing - (i) Overview, rationale and motivations, (ii) existing efforts, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iii) what people need, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iv) summarizing that into requirements, and how they satisfy the rationale, & (v) the roadmap to developing/delivering that in an OOR implementation effort, and how they satisfy the rationale <--adopted
        • maybe we call call (i) Value proposition (which is business speak)
      • therefore, we need more time, let's ask for 1.5 Hours
      • Bruce: emphasize why an OOR is needed ... more so than telling people that we know how to get there
      • Farrukh: we need to clarify that we are NOT advocating a single central repository ... federation is where we are going
  • Timeline / Milestones: <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)

4. New Issues:

5. Any Other Business:

6. Action items:

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Call adjourned at: 10:16 am PST


notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2008.03.21-10:27am PDT

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.


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