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[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-07-21

Conference Call Details

  • Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-07-21
  • Agenda Comments:
    • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
    • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
    • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
      • view-only password: "ontolog"
      • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
    • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_07_21
  • Date: Thursday, Jul. 21, 2005
  • Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock
  • Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
  • Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
  • Participant Access Code: "686564#"

Attendees

Agenda Ideas

Agenda & Proceedings

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

  • Bob Smith took the chair and welcomed everyone.

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

3) Roll-call of participants

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

  • Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
    • member regular meeting
    • invited speaker session
    • scheduled discussion
    • project review
    • workshop / work session
    • planning
  • Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months
    • August 11, 2005 - Jim Hendler from the University of Maryland will be doing a "Semantic Web Q & A" with the Ontolog community - see: ConferenceCall_2005_08_11
    • Candidate Sep. 2005 session(s) - we could probably do either one or both:
      • Sep. 8 (or day within that week) -- candidates - Elisa Kendall (Peter), Barry Smith (Bill) (probably for Oct.2005 too)
      • Jon Bosak of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session - Susan: the 2005.09.23 CEW on implication on governance ... would be ideal. [Kurt will follow up with Jon and Susan]
        • possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or CEW-multiple CoP Best Practice event (suggested: Susan Turnbull / 2005.03.03)
        • SusanTurnbull/2005.07.20: draft title for Sept. 23, 2005 (Friday) Collaborative Expedition Workshop is: "Governance and Procurement Readiness Challenges in Future Services Oriented Architecture: Leveraging the Data Reference Model"
        • Peter P. Yim / Susan Turnbull: let's aim at doing a 2-hour joint CEW-Ontolog session on Fri 2005.09.23 1:30~3:30pm EDT / 10:30am~12:30pm PDT
          • Peter will follow-up with Kurt
      • BillMcCarthy suggested John Sowa (try, either Sep. 1 or 6, 2005) - Bill will write John about this
        • Bill: haven't started to contact John yet; maybe we could try Barry Smith before John
    • future candidates speakers:
    • other suggestions:
  • Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months
    • David Whitten: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.
    • no discussion session for July 2005
    • August 25, 2005 discussion session - moderator: Rex Brooks - subject: Healthcare Informatics
      • candidate panelists: Bob Smith, Mark Musen, Marc Wine, David Whitten, Chris Chute, ... people from within and without the community
      • Rex and Bob will have a phone conference to work out some of the details
      • Peter to set up a skeleton session page, Rex will fill in the content
    • more work/discussion on OWL
      • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
    • Nicolas Rouquette -- topics lined up?
    • Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up
    • WSMO (Web Service Modeling Ontology), and possibly also, SWSF (Semantic Web Services Framework) - as proposed by Duane Nickull / Nicolas Rouquette / Peter Brown - ref. thread that started with http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00017.html
      • candidate panelists:
      • let's work with John Domingue toward a Oct 2005 panel discussion, with the 3 above viewpoints represented
        • John: will do ... but don't expect consensus at the end of the session ... (we understand)
      • ref. our 2005.06.30 discussion session, Michael Grüninger (who has been working on FLOWS and SWSF) indicated that this will be a session he will like to participate in too.
      • suggest Nicolas Rouquette to be our moderator for this session
      • we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005
      • candidates for November, 2005
        • Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
        • Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
        • Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
        • Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
          • Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, etc.
  • Upcoming Events of interest
    • Aug. 16, 12005 - Collaborative Expedition Woirkshop #43 (NSF)
    • Sep. 14, 2005 - 2nd DRM Public Forum (Washington DC) (Rex, Peter)
    • Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill, Duane)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues

  • Regular call time revisited: - will discuss in this session - ref: RegularConferenceCall
    • open discussion in progress (comments invited); will deliberate after end June 2005 (allowing W3C SWBPD to decide on their regular call time first.
    • Michael Grüninger also indicated last week (during the 2005.06.30 session) that our Thursday call time conflicts with that of the SWSF WG call schedule too.
    • SteveRay/2005.07.18 - "Input on alternative Ontolog meeting times: I would be able to attend at least some of the Ontolog meetings if they were held on any of: Monday, Tuesday or Friday PM. Cheers, Steve"
    • consensus is to keep the current time for now (sorry, Scott, Steve & Michael; let's see what else we can do ... =ppy)
      • Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in this exercise

6) Follow-ups from previous calls

  • Note of thanks to Anders Tell for presenting a wonderful synthesis of the eBusiness collaboration and ontological landscape
  • possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]

7) Current Project Status Report

  • Status of Protege-KIF project work
  • status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
    • AHIC Nomination
    • Aug. 5, 2005 deadline to submit a one pager.
    • Bob Smith will draft what we plan to submit and post for community review
      • if no additional comments, that will get submitted
  • UBL liaison report
  • status report from Planning team
    • there won't be a planning session after this call

8) project work session / discussion

9) New project proposals

  • Brand suggests we work with Rex Brooks to review the Broadstrokes group pilot, from an ontologists perspective
    • Rex, Bob, Peter to talk this over after the call today

10) Sponsorship and funding - ITEM SKIPPED

11) Other business

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

  • call adjourned 11:50am am PDT
  • next call will be on Thu 2005.07.28 starting at 10:30 am PDT

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minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim

ppy / 2005.07.21 11:51 am PDT



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