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OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Fri 2008-04-18

  • OpenOntologyRepository team conference call, Fri 2008.04.18, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 UTC

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Friday, April 18, 2008
  • Start Time: 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours
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Agenda Ideas

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  • further discussion on this OOR-team's deliverable at the Ontology Summit 2008 workshop (28~29-Apr-2008) at NIST (Gaithersburg, MD, USA), and other things we might want to do when we meet face-to-face there.

Agenda and Proceedings

1. Meeting called to order:

  • review and adopt agenda

2. Roll Call:

3. Status Review and Discussion:

  • What's New:
  • Logistics and Communications
  • Discussions:
  • Demo segment at the summit-F2F
    • Peter: we are still finalizing plans on how to run the "demo" segment

of the summit-F2F. The thinking now is toward more of a casual evening get together at the conference hotel, with people who have signed up to show demos to take turns at a projector, but for all those who will be there, it will be a networking event, rather than a formal presentation event. We could talk more about it during today's call ... or at the upcoming 4/24 final sync-up call - ref. ConferenceCall_2008_04_24

  • OOR-team presentation at the summit-F2F (day-2 afternoon)
    • Leo, Mike and Peter will be working on it tomorrow (Sat 2008.04.19)
    • we'll run a draft by everyone (via the [oor-forum] list early next week; need quick responses from everyone after the draft is posted; let's assume (first) that the transaction needs to be toatlly done via the list and concluded by end-of-day Wed 4/23
    • we can possibly talk about it briefly (if we can have a moment) at the final sync-up ConferenceCall_2008_04_24
    • Peter: clarification once again - the OOR-team report is NOT part if the summit discourse, it will probably more be about some of the possibility in the future "implementation" of an OOR by this team, given that the community has provided all the intellectual input by way of the ontology summit discourse.
  • Peter P. Yim: further discussion on this OOR-team's deliverable at the Ontology Summit 2008 workshop (28~29-Apr-2008) at NIST (Gaithersburg, MD, USA), and other things we might want to do when we meet face-to-face there. ... (discussion from last meeting)
    • 'target something we can "show" from this OOR effort at the Ontology Summit 2008 workshop
    • Bruce: I will be out of pocket 3/25 to 4/12
    • Farrukh: this is too short a time to get a demo together; maybe we should only consider developing a demo scenario, and present the OOR-team's Strategy, Plans and Roadmap
      • Rex: is it possible to show something tangible too?
      • Farrukh: let's present the 'what', not the 'how'
      • presenting the vision at the summit F2F
      • Bruce: let's present something we have accomplished rather than something we are planning to accomplish
      • Michelle: will clarify time allocation at F2F - put in a 1.5-Hr request <--adopted
      • Peter: suggest we put together task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the implementation folks) - Bruce, Mike, Mark, Farrukh, Evan & Peter
      • Peter: alternate suggestion for the task force to handle the preparation of this OOR-team presentation (mainly the co-chairs) - Leo, Frank Fabian, Barry, Pat
      • Bruce: propose to have Leo and Peter to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker <--adopted
        • updated/2008.03.21 with Bruce's concurrence - Leo Obrst, Mike Dean and Peter P. Yim to champion this presentation effort, and Leo to be the lead speaker
        • Leo: I could kick off the presentation in the overview, and then have individual speakers for each section (we'll be looking for volunteers) <--adopted
      • Leo: start asking all panelists (in the 4 sessions) to come up with a 2-slide summary <--adopted
        • all speakers are requested to send in a 2-slide summary of their brief (in addition to the slide deck they use during the briefing) for use in a presentation that the OOR-team will be making at the Ontology Summit 2008 face-to-face workshop
      • Ravi: two threads here - (a) summary of what's going on, (b) how we are thinking about the roadmap to implementation
      • Leo: summarizing - (i) Overview, rationale and motivations, (ii) existing efforts, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iii) what people need, and how they satisfy the rationale, (iv) summarizing that into requirements, and how they satisfy the rationale, & (v) the roadmap to developing/delivering that in an OOR implementation effort, and how they satisfy the rationale <--adopted
        • maybe we call call (i) Value proposition (which is business speak)
      • therefore, we need more time, let's ask for 1.5 Hours
      • Bruce: emphasize why an OOR is needed ... more so than telling people that we know how to get there
      • Farrukh: we need to clarify that we are NOT advocating a single central repository ... federation is where we are going
    • new! - the summit organizing committee is bringing up the possibility of making arrangements (or alloting time) for doing demos again! Mark Musen suggested that this is one of the things that we can do much better at a F2F than doing virtually. Given that, what can/should this team come up with.
      • Peter: ALL, please watch out on the [ontology-summit] & [oor-forum] list for more details as the organizing committee decides on whether or not, and how, we will be serving demos
      • Mike: if so, suggest we setup a page where people could register their intent to show demos
      • Ravi: need to communicate with NIST ref. firewall issues that may affect the demos
      • Gerry Creager mentioned that he is working on coming to the F2F, and its possible for him to run a demo of their current work (which John Graybeal has alluded to this group before.)
  • Resources and Funding: - mostly from previous discussions
  • Funding: getting organized
    • possibilities - government agencies (NSF?, NIST?, whoever would fund open infrastructure, DARPA, IARPA (Jeff), ... etc.); EU funders; Vulcan (Mark)?; bring in W3C in a exploratory (XG) working group (e.g. Semantic Web Deployment) (although they are a funding sink rather than a funding source; but good for visibility);   
    • grant proposal team(s) / submit proposal(s) to
    • Frank: NSF next solicitations due July-1, interop, data network partners, programs coming back
      • consider NSF-OCI (Office of Cyber Infrastructure)
    • try contacting Todd Hughes and see if DARPA is a possibility (Leo)
    • Peter: consider multiple smalls proposals and a big one ($20 million +/-) to make OOR a sustainable OOR operation
    • consider Foundations, and institutions like Vulcan (Peter).
      • Peter: Mark G already responded that funding chances are low, but possibility of collaboration with HALO ontologies hosted on OOR
    • Fabian: the climate at NIST (now that they are hosting the summit on this particular theme) would be conducive ... we should ping Steve on this.
    • we should set aside some off-line time to discuss this when some of us are at the summit F2F
      • Mike will help see if Todd Hughes and other relevant program managers could join us there at the summit F2F.
      • idea: [OT] have a bulletin board to help bring together BOF gatherings
  • Use Cases & Requirements
    • soliciting 'early adopter' partners who can offer up their ontologies, help refine requirements, and provide user feedback.
    • see above discussion ref. the two joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 panel discussion sessions (3/27 & 4/3)
  • Organization & Process <--will defer the discussion after the summit workshop
    • need to clearly identify team membership: active members vs. observers; and, more importantly, who are voting (decision making) members?
      • Active members: those who will be (a) building the OOR, and (b) those who will be early adopters with content (open ontologies) AND specific requirement input to provide -- does that sound good? (Yes: Peter, Bruce, Fabian)
      • will need to deliberate on this when we have more people on the call ... and/or doing it through the mailing list
    • how shall we organize ourselves? ... sub-workgroups? how many? <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)
    • relationship to Ontolog? sponsors? funders?
      • discussion postponed until we have a clearer approach toward funding
  • Timeline / Milestones: <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)

4. New Issues:

5. Any Other Business:

  • Peter: we are still looking for corporate sponsors to sponsor coffee (and refreshments?) during the summit-F2F breaks. Anyone who are willing to support this should contact Michelle Raymond and/or Peter P. Yim offline. Please do so by Wed 2008.04.23

6. Action items:

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Next Meeting:
    • Next meeting - Thu 2008.04.24 1.5 Hr - starting 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm EDT / 17:30 UTC - final sync-up call before the summit F2F (4/28~29) - refer to details at: ConferenceCall_2008_04_24
    • next OOR-team meeting Fri 2008.05.09 - 1.0~1.5 Hr. starting 12:00noon EDT / 9:00am PDT - see (closer to the time): OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_05_09
    • Note: earlier resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC
  • Call adjourned at: 09:42 am PST


notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2008.04.18-10:13am PDT

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.