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Ontology Summit 2012: Session-12 - Thu 2012-03-29
Summit Theme: OntologySummit2012: "Ontology for Big Systems"
Session Topic: Organizing the 'Big' Communique
OntologySummit2012_Communique co-Lead Editors & Session co-Chairs:
- ToddSchneider & AliHashemi ... intro-slides
Panelists:
- Track Champions and Co-editors of the Communique
- Track-1&2: Ontology for Big Systems and Systems Engineering - Matthew West & Henson Graves - (Track-1&2 Synthesis page)
- Track-3: Challenge: Ontology and Big Data - Ernie Lucier & Mary Brady - (Track-3 Synthesis page)
- Track-4: Large-Scale Domain Applications - Steve Ray & Trish Whetzel - (Track-4 Synthesis page)
- Cross-Track-A1: Ontology Quality and Large-Scale Systems - Amanda Vizedom & Mike Bennett - (Track-A1 Synthesis page)
- Cross-Track-A2: Ontology for Federation and Integration of Systems - Cory Casanave & Anatoly Levenchuk - (Track-A2 Synthesis page)
- OntologySummit2012_Symposium Co-chairs: Ram D. Sriram and Michael Grüninger
- Ontology Summit 2012 General Co-chairs: Leo Obrst and Nicola Guarino - (OntologySummit2012 Theme and Goal)
Archives
- Abstract
- Agenda
- Prepared material can be accessed by clicking on each of the title links below:
- [ 0-Chair ] . [ 1-Communique-draft ] . [ 2-Track-1&2-synthesis ] . [ 3-Track-3-synthesis ] . [ 4-Track-4-synthesis ] . [ 5-X-Track-A1-synthesis ] . [ 6-X-Track-A2-synthesis ] . [ 7-Reference-List ]
- Audio recording of the session [ 1:48:00 ; mp3 ; 12.36 MB ]
- transcript of the online chat during the session ... (raw transcript is now available; edited version coming!)
- Additional Resources
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Attendees
- Attended:
- Todd Schneider
- Ali Hashemi
- Amanda Vizedom
- Anatoly Levenchuk
- Bobbin Teegarden
- Cory Casanave
- David Flater
- Doug Foxvog
- Elizabeth Florescu
- EnriqueWulff
- Ernie Lucier
- Giancarlo Guizzardi
- Hasan Sayani
- Henson Graves
- Jim Kirby
- Joel Bender
- Kathy Ellis
- Marcela Vegetti
- Mary Brady
- Matthew West
- Michael Grüninger
- Mike Bennett
- Nicola Guarino
- Nikolay Borgest
- Pavithra Kenjige
- Peter P. Yim
- Rex Brooks
- Steve Ray
- Terry Longstreth
- Tom Tinsley
- Trish Whetzel
- ...
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- Regrets:
- Scott Hills
- Frank Olken (will catch up on this from the session recording)
- Leo Obrst
- Ram D. Sriram
- Line Pouchard
- ...
Abstract
Session Topic: Organizing the 'Big' Communique
This is our 7th Ontology Summit, a joint initiative by NIST, Ontolog, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA & NCO_NITRD with the support of our co-sponsors. The theme adopted for this Ontology Summit is: "Ontology for Big Systems." The event today is our 12th virtual session.
The principal goal of the summit is to bring together and foster collaboration between the ontology community, systems community, and stakeholders of some of "big systems." Together, the summit participants will exchange ideas on how ontological analysis and ontology engineering might make a difference, when applied in these "big systems." We will aim towards producing a series of recommendations describing how ontologies can create an impact; as well as providing illustrations where these techniques have been, or could be, applied in domains such as bioinformatics, electronic health records, intelligence, the smart electrical grid, manufacturing and supply chains, earth and environmental, e-science, cyberphysical systems and e-government.
As is traditional with the Ontology Summit series, the collective results of this extended discourse will be captured in the form of a communiqué, with expanded supporting material provided on the web. Towards that end, our communique lead editors will conduct this session, where we will, as a community, review how we would want to frame the message we would want to deliver in the communique, review the input from each of the tracks, as synthesized from the focused discourse over the last couple of months or so. Our target is to get to an 'almost final' communique draft available for community review/comment between April-4 and April-8, which will then allow us to have a final draft before the OntologySummit2012_Symposium on Thursday 12-April-2012, where the communique will be finally reviewed and adopted.
The goal of the meeting is to come up with an initial draft, albeit possible very coarse, of the summit's communique. Due to the time constraint, discussions will need to be focused and succinct.
More details about this Summit at: OntologySummit2012 (home page for the summit)
Agenda
Ontology Summit 2012 - Panel Session-12
- Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call
- 0. Opening (co-chairs) - Todd Schneider / Ali Hashemi ... [ slides/material ]
- 1. Framing the theme
- 2. Revise / Augment the draft outline
- 3. Review track contributions - Track Champions
- 4. Mapping / Melding contributions to outline (All) - -- please refer to process above
- 5. Status review / Follow-up actions - (co-chairs)
- 6. Brief review of "Reference List" and other deliverables
- 7. Announcements / Wrap Up - (co-chairs)
Proceedings
Please refer to the above
IM Chat Transcript captured during the session
see raw transcript here.
(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)
Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.
-- begin in-session chat-transcript --
Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the
Ontology Summit 2012: Session-12 - Thu 2012-03-29
Summit Theme: Ontology Summit 2012: "Ontology for Big Systems"
Session Topic: Organizing the 'Big' Communique
OntologySummit2012_Communique co-Lead Editors & Session co-Chairs: Todd Schneider & Ali Hashemi
Panelists - Track Champions and Co-editors of the Communique:
- Track-1&2: Ontology for Big Systems and Systems Engineering - Matthew West & Henson Graves
- Track-3: Challenge: Ontology and Big Data - Ernie Lucier & Mary Brady
- Track-4: Large-Scale Domain Applications - Steve Ray & Trish Whetzel
- Cross-Track-A1: Ontology Quality and Large-Scale Systems - Amanda Vizedom & Mike Bennett
- Cross-Track-A2: Ontology for Federation and Integration of Systems - Cory Casanave & Anatoly Levenchuk
- OntologySummit2012_Symposium Co-chairs: Ram D. Sriram and Michael Grüninger
- Ontology Summit 2012 General Co-chairs: Leo Obrst and Nicola Guarino
Session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2012_03_29
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Proceedings:
anonymous morphed into Elizabeth Florescu
anonymous morphed into Ernie Lucier
Todd Schneider: Good afternoon/morning everyone.
Todd Schneider: Will be with you shortly.
anonymous morphed into Tom Tinsley
Mike Bennett: I have to jump off just before 2 Eastern / 11 Pacific.
anonymous morphed into Doug Foxvog
Matthew West: I've had my head down in our own track, so do not have a broad view of this summit.
Mike Bennett: One possible theme is the different applications of ontologies, as a technical artifact
in its own right, and as a means to capture common semantics across some large engineering system. I
don't know if that fits with what you are looking for here though.
Ali Hashemi: Steve Ray points out that many systems: software, enterprises are based around "Model
Driven Systems"
Matthew West: Model driven is closely associated with semantics of course.
Nicola Guarino: Modelling is much more general than ontological modelling
Mike Bennett: @Nicola agreed. And ontology has broader applications than model driven engineering
(indeed, the latter has been a minority case in the Semantic Web world but has been shown to be
important in the big systems context)
Nicola Guarino: @Mike agreed
Terry Longstreth: Lemma: Ontological methods can be applied to engineering models to improve depth
and breadth of modeling semantics
Nicola Guarino: @Terry: I agree very much. Ontological analysis and actual engineered ontologies just
complement (in a very useful way) model driven engineering (for instance model driven engineering
based on systems of differential equations)
Bobbin Teegarden: @Steve Are you implying, perhaps, that the (ontology)Model IS the System (as in
Model Driven Architecture (MDA))?
Steve Ray: @Bobbin: Yes I am.
Henson Graves: agree that we are in a model driven age. Also our modeling language are not as good as
we need. Ontology is the value proposition to make the models work.
Terry Longstreth: @Henson: +1
Steve Ray: I suppose my point is that ontological modeling is a better, more rigorous way of modeling
in general.
Matthew West: Engineering models are more often mathematical than logical, but there are none the
less ontological elements.
Matthew West: @Steve: does that mean you propose replacing mathematics with logic?
Steve Ray: @Matthew: Not really. Logic is just a part of mathematics, right? Where it makes sense,
use logic. Where a differential equation makes sense, by all means use that.
Matthew West: @Steve: Yes, but most people see ontology as being limited to expression in logic, and
not to include broader mathematical models.
Steve Ray: @Matthew: Fair enough. For inherently numerical problems, I would agree that mathematics
as traditionally understood is best (such as a control system for example). But for symbolic
problems, ontology models are best.
Steve Ray: @Matthew: So, both are models, and in fact I would submit that an ontological model
provides the contextual framework in which a mathematical model operates.
Matthew West: @Steve: Agreed.
Jim Kirby: Where are the slides?
Mike Bennett: @Jim on the hopper (vnc server) http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
Ernie Lucier: @Jim if you do not have access to hopper (the vnc server) then
Jim Kirby: @Ernie Thanks!
Anatoly Levenchuk: We may at least tell that ontology is about meta-modeling part of modeling. There
are many levels of meta-models and models, therefore we have difficulties in differentiating
ontologizing and modeling (and programming too). Model transformations, compilation and mapping is
about the same activity.
anonymous morphed into Mary Brady
Rex Brooks: While I haven't come to any overarching conclusion, I am now using UML Modeling in
Enterprise Architect and Owl Ontology / Ontologies in Protege, and they are quite useful when
working back and forth from one to the other for specific classes, terms, systems-programs, etc. Of
course having a coordinated set of ontologies and models as the end products is very handy as
resources and references for getting specific kinds of information about these things as needed.
Rex Brooks: I haven't gotten to the point where using these with inferencing engines or open data
sources with SPARQL but I expect that to become even more useful.
Mike Bennett: @Rex have you considered using the Ontology Definition Metamodel (ODM) so as to have
your ontologies and logical UML models in the same tool? Mail me off list if you need to know
details.
Bobbin Teegarden: @Rex Enterprise Architect is just coming out with an OWL Plugin, very formative
stage; and Elisa Kendall's VOM Plugin is more mature (and does follow ODM, ref by Bennett).
Bobbin Teegarden: @Rex VOM Plugin is in MagicDraw, just fyi.
Mike Bennett: @Bobbin agreed. Also lets one generate OWL for use in Protege tools.
Rex Brooks: @Bobbin-Mary-Matthew: Thanks very much. Wish I could afford MagicDraw,
but I'm glad to hear that there is a plugin on the way for EA. However, I will probably continue to
use them as springboards back and forth, creating a kind of synergy I haven't had before.
Rex Brooks: @Mike: I had your email on another machine that failed recently. I would like to contact
you about the ODM. I was aware of it, but not this capability. My email is rexb[at]starbourne.com
Ali Hashemi: Ernie Lucier suggests that the distinction between Current Problems and Uses is unclear.
Ali Hashemi: Nicola Guarino suggests that section headings should convey more meaning.
Ernie Lucier: I have to leave now.
Mary Brady: @Ernie: I can stay for just a bit longer...about 1:15
anonymous morphed into Giancarlo Guizzardi
Ali Hashemi: google-doc of the developing communique draft is at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OG_iNRROkfh2T76Ri0SrNzwLwVKGKo4kQOWwBKxHjy8/edit
Ali Hashemi: Please note - anyone with this link can edit the document (while we are in-session now)
Peter P. Yim: @Henson, @Matthew - the figures are now in - see:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2012_BigSystemsEngineering_Synthesis
Trish Whetzel: Regrets, I need to leave the call now.
Nicola Guarino: Ontological analysis as enabler of good modeling. I endorse this very much. Very
crisp statement.
Nicola Guarino: (who said that?) ... [it was Henson Graves and Matthew West citing that as being among
the track-1&2 key conclusions; the statement was reiterated by session co-chair Todd Schneider just
now.]
Giancarlo Guizzardi: @Nicola: Fully agree.
Steve Ray: +1 on Nicola's statement
Cory Casanave: We should not differentiate modeling and ontological analysis, ontological analysis
should be positioned as part of modeling and one that is emerging as best practice. The precise
modeling encompassing ontological analysis is a key enabler to the model driven approach Steve
identified.
Mary Brady: Regrets...I too have to leave.
Peter P. Yim: I just want to emphasize that some statements (or recommendations) made (say, by panelists
or even in the syntheses) are context sensitive. If we don't have the luxury (say, limited by
document length constraints) in the synthesis write-ups and/or the communique to provide those
context, we should avoid citing them out of context.
Mike Bennett: Cross Track X1 (Ontology Quality), the Google Doc seems to incorporate our community
input page and not our track champions' synthesis page.
Henson Graves: @amanda, there are well developed methods for validating models, e.g., but test.
Presumably these methods could be used to test ontologies. also you could build on Nicola's notion
of ontology correctness
Amanda Vizedom: @henson, yes, and there are even techniques for unit testing, and various researchers
have been developing more quantitative measures of other ontology characteristics that may or may
not be applicable to particular cases... and there are many techniques for in-use testing and domain
expert validation that are not well documented. That's one step; finding more ways to streamline
and/or automate is another.
Doug Foxvog: @Amanda: Could you provide a link to methods/tools for validating ontology quality that
you were referring to? Are you referring to tools such as OntoClean?
Ali Hashemi: @Doug - this probably isn't the same as what Amanda suggests, but this is also relevant:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1202.3602
Amanda Vizedom: @Doug, I was mostly talking about the need to document approaches to evaluation, so
naturally I cannot provide links. But the reference library has a good start for discovery of some
of what is documented.
Bobbin Teegarden: Something about quality and requirements sometimes missed: if the goal is to tune
the current system, quality/requirements are important; but if the goal is to use modeling to do
possibility' thinking, integrate newness, or get out of the box and design a future system or
enhancement, it's more a creative sketching activity and 'quality' is more of an inhibitor,
requirements are highly conceptual... Is this worth saying?
Amanda Vizedom: @Bobbin- Conceptual requirements are still requirements! But more generally, I'd say
that this is part of the way that requirements vary with usage. And as a reminder, by "quality" here
we are limiting ourselves to the engineering sense: the quality of something is the degree to which
it meets requirements. So, if some characteristic (computational properties, reusability,
consistency with X,....) isn't a requirement of the usage, it shouldn't be part of the quality
measurement for this usage. What we need is better, explicit, and well-grounded understanding of
what requirements go with what usages!
Cory Casanave: don't know why my call dropped!
Henson Graves: [ref. Anatoly's point about "metamodelling = ontologizing"] @anatoly, I agree with you
Mike Bennett: Nicola is making a very important point here: metamodels and ontologies are not in any
way the same thing.
Steve Ray: Agree with Nicola. Metamodelling would refer to M2. Modeling would be M1.
Henson Graves: @steve, an auto is M0, the model is M1, and the metamodel for autos can be at M2
Steve Ray: @Henson: Agreed
Steve Ray: [ref. Anatoly's remark that Nicola's rejection of "metamodels=ontologies" is possibly
related to "presentation versus representation"] Nicola is not talking about presentation versus
representation.
Henson Graves: @nicola, the conceptualizations and patterns can be represented within metamodel. the
model of a system is an instance of the metamodel of a system as a pattern
Matthew West: Ontology is useful at each (meta) level, and in distinguishing between the levels.
Nicola Guarino: At every modeling level there is a corresponding (often implicit) ontology. Ontology
does not just belong to the meta level
Ali Hashemi: +1 to Nicola's point
Steve Ray: @Nicola: Also agreed. I don't think ontology is better suited for one metal level or
another. It is orthogonal to the metal level. It's just a better way to model.
Cory Casanave: @Steve +1 - semantic modeling at all levels!!
Matthew West: @Ali and Todd: [ref. Todd suggesting to do some real time cut-and-paste into the
developing communique draft] Please do not do that. We have provided input that was roughly in the
order of the outline, just take it offline.
Peter P. Yim: +1 on what Matthew West is suggesting - that the lead editors should just make the calls
and come up with a first draft based on what the champions have turned in
Matthew West: It looks like you already have our stuff in there.
Peter P. Yim: +1 on Steve's remark about clarifying "Current State" as being "Current state of the
practice" vs. "state of the art"
Steve Ray: Absolutely agree with what Henson is saying
Peter P. Yim: @Henson - well said - can you document that on the chat, please
Ali Hashemi: [documenting what Henson just said ...] Shift towards explicit semantics ... from
informal modeling to modeling in formal languages ... to underpin modeling languages w/ explicit
semantics ... to understand the underlying ontology of the elements of the languages
Steve Ray: Eh?
Ali Hashemi: ?
Steve Ray: Well defined semantics without knowing what the context is?
Nicola Guarino: ... and there is also a shift from just using *ontologies* (as useful engineering
artefacts) toward using *ontological analysis* (as a methodology which helps understanding and
disentangling the complexity of big systems)
Matthew West: @Nicola: +1
Giancarlo Guizzardi: @HensonGraves: Yes. I agree with that point. Formal characterization should
reflect ontological distinctions. Formal semantics cannot guarantee quality per se. Logics (or any
piece of mathematics for that matter) does not care what we do with it and, thus, cannot itself
fully constrain the possible interpretations of a model (and a metamodel) to the intended ones
Giancarlo Guizzardi: @Nicola: Fully agree with that.
Anatoly Levenchuk: @Nicola not ontological analysis but ontology engineering (like requirement
engineering and systems architecture engineering along with requirement analyses etc. as small part
of engineering thing)
Mike Bennett: Apologies, I have to drop off now.
Peter P. Yim: "inferencing" helps make sense of "big data"
Peter P. Yim: ontological engineering helps augment humans in dealing with "big data" by off-loading a
lot of the work to machines
Matthew West: @Peter: Yes, seeing how ontology can help to automate mundane but necessary activity.
Terry Longstreth: Ontological analysis requires a canonical methodology, which may equate to
ontological engineering, but I think should be broader
Anatoly Levenchuk: @peter better ontology engineering (not ontological). We then have ontology as
explicit engineering artifact with life cycle, practices (like analysis, management etc.).
Nicola Guarino: Thank for you efforts, Todd & Ali!
anonymous morphed into Nikolay Borgest
Ali Hashemi: re. "Reference List" see -
https://www.zotero.org/groups/ontologysummit2012/items/collectionKey/I4QX3RT7
Amanda Vizedom: re. "Reference List" content page on the wiki is at -
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2012_RecommendedReading
Cory Casanave: How wide or narrow do we consider "inferencing", production of derivative information
from models is done a lot, inference is more identified with FOL
Peter P. Yim: @Cory - not necessarily, even simple inferences (say, applying modus ponens) can prove to
be useful
Cory Casanave: @Peter - I agree but that may not be the interpretation of readers
Peter P. Yim: @Cory - guess we (the lead editors) will just have to word it properly to make sure that
we are looking at a spectrum of possibilities
Cory Casanave: @Peter - good, but not easy!
Giancarlo Guizzardi: Folks. I have to drop off now. thanks for all the effort. bye
Peter P. Yim: Bye, Giancarlo ... thanks for joining us today!
Nicola Guarino: I have to go as well. Bye bye folks, good session!
Peter P. Yim: great session ... lots discussed and done!
Peter P. Yim: Ali says: we will be publishing a draft of the communique the day before our session next
Thursday
Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 11:23am PDT --
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Additional Resources
- Homepage of OntologySummit2012
- Ontology Summit 2012 Launch Event - ConferenceCall_2012_01_12
- Ontology Summit 2012 session-02 "Ontology for Big Systems: What's In Scope" - ConferenceCall_2012_01_19
- Ontology Summit 2012 session-03 "Ontology for Big Systems & Systems Engineering - I : The Systems and Systems Engineering Problem Space" - ConferenceCall_2012_01_26
- Ontology Summit 2012 session-04 - "Ontology for Big Systems & Systems Engineering - II : a response to the problem space and setting out the working program for this Summit Track" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_02
- Ontology Summit 2012 session-05 - "Meeting Big Data Challenges through Ontology - I" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_09
- Ontology Summit 2012 session-06 - "Large-Scale Domain Applications I" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_16
- Ontology Summit 2012 session-07 - "Implementing Ontology Quality Measures in Big Systems Engineering" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_23
- Ontology Summit 2012 session-08 - "Ontology for Federation and Integration of Systems" - ConferenceCall_2012_03_01
- Ontology Summit 2012 session-09 - "Large-Scale Domain Applications II" - ConferenceCall_2012_03_08
- Ontology Summit 2012 session-10 - "Big Data Developing Challenges" - ConferenceCall_2012_03_15
- Ontology Summit 2012 session-11 - "Big Systems: The ontology of System Components, and System Modelling Language Requirements" - ConferenceCall_2012_03_22
- Wiki pages devoted to the focused discourse by Tracks:
- Track-1&2: Ontology for Big Systems and Systems Engineering
- OntologySummit2012_BigSystemsEngineering_CommunityInput (open)
- OntologySummit2012_BigSystemsEngineering_Synthesis (maintained by Matthew West, HensonGraves)
- OntologySummit2012_BigSystemsEngineering_CommunityInput (open)
- Track-3: Challenge: Ontology and Big Data
- OntologySummit2012_BigDataChallenge_CommunityInput (open)
- OntologySummit2012_BigDataChallenge_Synthesis (maintained by Ernie Lucier, MaryBrady)
- OntologySummit2012_BigDataChallenge_CommunityInput (open)
- Track-4: Large-scale Domain Applications
- OntologySummit2012_Applications_CommunityInput (open)
- OntologySummit2012_Applications_Synthesis (maintained by Steve Ray, TrishWhetzel)
- OntologySummit2012_Applications_CommunityInput (open)
- Cross-Track-A1: Ontology Quality and Large-Scale Systems
- OntologySummit2012_Quality_CommunityInput (open)
- OntologySummit2012_Quality_Synthesis (maintained by Amanda Vizedom, MikeBennett)
- OntologySummit2012_Quality_CommunityInput (open)
- Cross-Track-A2: Ontology for Federation and Integration of Systems
- OntologySummit2012_SystemsFederationIntegration_CommunityInput (open)
- OntologySummit2012_SystemsFederationIntegration_Synthesis (maintained by Cory Casanave, AnatolyLevenchuk)
- OntologySummit2012_SystemsFederationIntegration_CommunityInput (open)
- Track-1&2: Ontology for Big Systems and Systems Engineering
- Summit Communique:
- Ontology Summit 2012 Communique Draft - on [ google-doc]
- OntologySummit2012_Communique/Draft (maintained by the communique co-editors)
- OntologySummit2012_Communique (maintained by the co-lead editors)
- List of References - OntologySummit2012_RecommendedReading (maintained by AmandaVizedom)
- [ontology-summit] mailing list archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/
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- Homepage of the Summit series - see: OntologySummit
For the record ...
How To Join (while the session is in progress)
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- or, 3.1 (access our shared-screen vnc server, if you are not behind a corporate firewall)