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[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-12-01

Conference Call Details

  • Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-12-01
  • Agenda Comments:
    • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.
    • In particular, we will be devoting a portion of this call to work out technical discussion topics for the next few months; especially, one that is potentially a joint session on an "Upper Ontology" panel.
    • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by [[ToolsCollaboration|WebDAV] upload] prior to the meeting
    • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/
      • view-only password: "ontolog"
      • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed
    • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_12_01
  • Date: Thursday, Dec. 1, 2005
  • Start Time: 10:30 AM PST / 1:30 PM EST / 18:30 UTC World Clock
  • Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour
  • Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)
  • Participant Access Code: "686564#"

Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • ...(add your name here)...

Agenda Ideas

  • ...(add suggested items here)...

Agenda & Proceedings

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

3) Roll-call of participants

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

  • Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):
    • member regular meeting
    • invited speaker session
    • scheduled discussion
    • project review
    • workshop / work session
    • planning
  • Scheduled Ontolog Events
    • Thu Dec. 8, 2005 - Jim Spohrer - "Services Science, Management, and Engineering (SSME)" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_12_08 - confirmed (PeterYim & EMichaelMaximilien)
    • Thu Dec. 15, 2005 discussion - Moderator: Duane Nickull & Kurt Conrad - subject: "Ontology Applications and Implementations" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_12_15/Prep
    • Thu Jan. 12, 2006 - Leo Obrst - "What is an ontology? - A Briefing on the Range of Semantic Models" - confirmed (PeterYim)
    • Thu Feb. 9, 2006 - Asuman Dogac - "Exploiting ebXML Registry Semantics in the eHealth Domain" - confirmed (MonicaMartin)
  • Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates:
    • a panel with speaker representing: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim/2005.01.20) -- to be discussed in more detail today below
      • possibly teaming up with SICoP and their ONTAC-WG/COSMO-WG
    • Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion
    • Rex suggested we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel
    • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful
    • Nicolas Rouquette -- other topics lined up?
    • Other candidates:
      • Rex: propose "Emergency Response"
      • Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.
      • Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion
      • Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)
        • Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.
      • Peter P. Yim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues

6) Follow-ups from previous calls

  • Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling -- (Bob / Nicolas - please bring closure to this item)
  • session with UN/CEFACT on CCTS 3.0 recommendations
    • Kurt: called CCTS / Mary Kay-Blantz on Nov. 11, 2005
      • we see our input as a starting point for discussion (not an immediate actionable change request)
      • they prefer a F2F discussion rather than a phone conference
      • are interested to have us present at their Conference on Mar. 13~17, 2006 in Vancouver, Canada
      • would be wonderful if we can do a "What is an Ontology?" like what Leo is going to present on Jan. 12, 2006
        • we should invite them [attn: Kurt]

7) Current Project Status Report

  • Status of Protege-KIF project work
    • Peter & Pat working on putting this up on the SMI/CIM3 CODS server
  • status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
    • representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.
      • Marc Wine presented on HITOP
  • UBL liaison report - nothing to report
  • SICoP liaison report
  • NCOR relationship - pending
  • Planning team report - nothing to report

8) project work session / discussion -

  • Thu 2005.12.15 Scheduled Discussion on "Ontology Applications and Implementations" - final tuning
  • Discussion on a Joint "Upper Ontology Panel"
    • collaborators (co-organizer): Ontolog, SICOP/ONTAC/COSMO, NIST, NCOR, CYCorp, LOA, Articulate Software, ...
    • Action plan
    • date / time:
      • Steve: Mar. 13~17 2006 "Interoperability Week" at NIST (note conflict with UN/CEFACT Vancouver conference)
        • Steve: possibility to devote a day (or half-day) of that week to this event
          • decision: try to lock in for Thursday afternoon (ET) for the panel
          • maybe the other half day can be used by those onsite to do some real F2F work
          • need the sessions to be available remotely for those who will only participate virtually
    • candidate moderator
      • we all agreed that we needed someone who is neutral, moderate, and is highly respected by the community
      • a few of the candidates were dropped because they have a position that they wanted to represent at the event
      • Steve Ray is elected to be the moderator for this panel
    • candidate panelist (and targeted participant)
    • goal
      • shall we based this event on the assumption/precept that "a common upper ontology is good"
      • get parties to set aside their own agenda and genuinely collaborate
    • follow-up
    • Thoughts
      • Rex: need more than 2 hours
      • Rex: should we involve the UDEF people?
        • general consensus is no, since even they (UDEF folks) themselves disclaim that they are an ontology in all their recent presentations
      • Peter: accesible both onsite and remote
      • Pat / Steve: notify the press
      • Pat: eliminate the perception that this is a "religious" battle among the ontologists themselves
      • David: health ontology folks involved?
    • refer to subsequent preparation work for this event at the UpperOntologyPanel project page

9) New project proposals

10) Sponsorship and funding

11) Other business

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

  • regular call adjourned 11:43 am PST
  • next call will be on Thu 2005-12-08 starting at 10:30 am PST - Dr. James Spohrer of IBM will be speaking on "Services Science, Management, and Engineering (SSME)" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_12_08 ... see you there. RSVP!

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minutes captured in real time on this wiki by Peter P. Yim / 2005.12.01-12:00pm



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