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Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series: session-2 - Thu 2011_11_03

Topic: Ontology-Related Metadata Standards -- ISO Metadata and Metamodel Standards for Ontology Work, and Related Activities at OMG

Co-chairs: Professor MichaelGruninger (University of Toronto) & Professor JohnBateman (Bremen University)

Invited Speaker: Ms. ElisaKendall (Thematix)

Abstract

Ontology-Related Metadata Standards

This is the 2nd session of the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series, co-championed by Professor Michael Grüninger (University of Toronto) and Professor John Bateman (Bremen University), who among their other roles, co-chair the Standardization Coordination Committee of IAOA.
ISO 19763 Metamodel Framework for Interoperability (MFI) is a set of standards being developed under ISO/IEC JTC1/SC32 (Standards for Data Management and Interchange) as one of the WG2 (Metadata Standards) projects.
Ms. Kendall's presentation will include background on what the ISO/IEC JTC1/SC32/WG2 working group does, the set of standards they have been responsible for and who and how these standards are being used. She will provide an overview of the parts in the ISO 19763 standard that are of particular interest to this audience.
The ISO/JTC1/SC32 working groups have just met this last week (October, 24 - 28, 2011) in Crete, Greece. Elisa will also ping folks who attended to get some latest updates, especially those involving the metadata standards in general. In addition, she will present current work at the Object Management Group (OMG) motivating the need for such standards, as well as provide an update on what's happening in ontology at OMG more generally.

Agenda & Proceedings

Session Topic: Ontology-Related Metadata Standards -- ISO Metadata and Metamodel Standards for Ontology Work, and Related Activities at OMG

  • Session Format & Agenda: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call:
    • 1. Opening Remarks - co-chairs
    • 2. Briefing from the invited speaker - Elisa Kendall ... (slides)
    • 3. Q & A and open discussion - All (~30 min.) ... (ref. process)
    • 4. Conclusion / Follow-up / Announcement - co-chairs

Transcript of the online chat during the session

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin of chat session --

Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series: session-2 Thu 2011_11_03

Topic: Ontology-Related Metadata Standards -- ISO Metadata and Metamodel Standards for Ontology

Work, and Related Activities at OMG

Co-chairs: Professor Michael Grüninger (University of Toronto) & Professor John Bateman (Bremen University)

Invited Speaker: Ms. Elisa Kendall (Thematix)

Please refer to details on thesession page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_11_03

Mute / Un-mute: moderator will mute everyone; raise your hand (with "hand button" at lower right of

chat window) "*7" to un-mute yourself; "*6" to go back into mute after you speak

if you are in the chat-room as "anonymous", please click on "setting" (button at top center) and

change that to your real name in WikiWord format)

. == Proceedings == .

anonymous morphed into Elisa Kendall

anonymous morphed into Clarence Dillon

anonymous1 morphed into Christopher Spottiswoode

anonymous morphed into Michelle Raymond

anonymous morphed into Elizabeth Florescu

anonymous morphed into Bart Gajderowicz

anonymous morphed into Maimi Niina

anonymous morphed into Mike Riben

anonymous morphed into Harold Solbrig

Peter P. Yim: John Bateman ... we don't hear you on voice ... are you having trouble?

John Bateman: yes: Skype has just updated itself and I Can't activate the keypad to give the PIN!!!

John Bateman: OK, now I'm in... 

Show Dial Pad"


Rex Brooks: Sorry I got here late and will have to leave early. Hectic day. I will catch up

asynchronously later. ... I'll leave this page up while gone so I can catch any exchanges in the

chat, and will look for the recording later. Sounds very interesting!

Denise Warzel: My comment was that the ontologies registered by the 19763-3 Ontology registration

plays important role in providing concepts to use in annotating the other 19763 models. Annotations

on the classes in the other parts of 19763 are intended to come from domain specific concepts in

ontologies registered by 19763-3....

Denise Warzel: ISO 11179 Part 3 FDIS will be submitted next January, and it will be another 6 months

for adoption as IS (International Standard)

Christoph Lange: need to leave in a few minutes, sorry! thanks for your presentation.

(@MichaelGruninger: no specific questions so far. Need to think about this, and its relation to

OntoIOp.)

Todd Schneider: Elisa, thank you the information and updates. You've identified a large number of

interesting research problems that have very practical consequences (and need to solved yesterday).

Have to go. Cheers.

Harold Solbrig: CTS2 has attempted to represent a reasonable subset of OMV

Harold Solbrig: We ended up using more of an earlier version, however, that did support the notion of

ontology version.

Harold Solbrig: CTS2 will be coupled w/ BioPortal which will make it accessible to OOR as well if

desired.

Michael Grüninger: @HaroldSolbrig: Can you please expand the acronym CTS2?

Ali Hashemi: @Michael, @Harold: CTS2 = Common Terminology Services 2 (http://hssp.wikispaces.com/cts2) ?

Harold Solbrig: That is the intro - the current jump off point is

http://informatics.mayo.edu/cts2/framework/

Harold Solbrig: http://informatics.mayo.edu/cts2 is an anchor point as well, has the specs and the

like, but we're currently in the process of updating the documentation

Harold Solbrig: @MichaelGruninger - "Common Terminology Services 2" - The "2" is because it is a

logical successor to the CTS standard, which emerged in HL7 and ISO TC215

Michael Grüninger: @HaroldSolbrig: thanks!

Michael Grüninger: @Elisa: You discussed models and modules? We all know how the term "model" is

overloaded, so I could you clarify how model modularity is related to ontology modularity?

John Bateman: Really excellent presentation! Fantastic overview of very many absolute current,

critical issues of interest to many of us. Thanks for that! ... particularly concerning the current

burning issues of modularity and reasoning over the specs.

Fabian Neuhaus: unfortunately i have to go. Elisa, thank you for your great presentation.

Peter P. Yim: @Elisa - great presenation! ... can you give us some pointers to the state-of-the-art in

UML to OWL/CL and XML to OWL/CL translation tools?

Leo Obrst: Thanks, Elisa! Good view of the landscape.

Peter P. Yim: @Michael - [reference to the person at JPL Elisa mentioned] that would be:

Nicolas Rouquette

Ali Hashemi: [link to the IKL project] - http://sourceforge.net/projects/prikl/

Christopher Spottiswoode: Many thanks - most impressive!

Peter P. Yim: Great session!

Peter P. Yim: -- session ended 11:19am PDT --

-- end of chat session --

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