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Joint DATA.GOV-ONTOLOG "Big Open Data" Session - Thu 2012_05_17

Session Topic: "Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - case examples and possibilities"

Session Co-chair: GeorgeThomas (HHS), JesseWang (SMWcon-Spring2012 / Vulcan) & PeterYim (Ontolog / CIM3) - slides

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  • JeanneHolm, ChrisMusialek and AndrewNicklin will return (after last week's panel) to participate as discussants on the panel today (no briefing)

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  • Date: Thursday, 17-May-2012
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Abstract

Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - case examples and possibilities

This is the second of two sessions jointly organized by the US federal data.gov initiative and Ontolog; with the support from NYC-open-data, SMWcon-Spring2012, and OOR.

The two sessions on 'Big Open Data' follows quite naturally from a few very exciting recent events, notably:

  • (a) the recent US federal government's thrust toward developing and leveraging 'Big Data'
  • (b) the 3-month long Ontology Summit 2012 series of events that just finished a few weeks ago that was focused around the theme 'Ontology for Big Systems' and
  • (c) New York City's award of their 'Big Apps 3.0' grand prize to NYCfacets (developed by a member of this community) and the City's 'open data' initiative that followed.

During today's session, we will look more closely on the technology and the implementation details that will make 'Big Open Data' work in government open data initiatives, and discuss how open collaborative community efforts can help.

Agenda

Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration - case examples and possibilities

  • Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call
  • 1. Opening (chair) - George Thomas [5~10 min.] ... [ slides ]
  • 2. Panel briefings [10 min. each; we'll hold off questions until later]
    • JoelNatividad - "NYCFacets: Metadata, Extrametadata & Crowdknowing"
    • WilSmith - "LDIF: Linked Data Integration Framework"
    • Stephen Larson - "NeuroLex: A Semantic Wiki for Neuroscience"
    • Jon Weers - "OpenEI: LOD Success Stories"
    • BernadetteHyland - "A Linked Data Approach for Integrating Multi-scale Models & Data for Human Health & the Environment"
    • Peter P. Yim, Leo Obrst, Mike Dean, Ken Baclawski - "Leveraging OOR in Big Open Data"
  • 3. Panel discussion - reactions from the panel - Jeanne Holm, ChrisMusialek, AndrewNicklin and All panelists [~20 min.]
  • 4. Q & A and open discussion [All: ~20 min.] - (moderated by the co-chairs) -- please refer to process above
  • 5. Wrap-up / Announcements - (chair)

Proceedings

Please refer to the above

IM Chat Transcript captured during the session

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

[09:21] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

Joint DATA.GOV-ONTOLOG "Big Open Data" Session-II - Thu 2012-05-17

Session Topic: "Implementing 'Big Open Data' in government through Open Collaboration

- case examples and possibilities"

Session Co-chairs:

Panel Briefings:

  • JoelNatividad (Ontodia) - "NYCFacets: Metadata, Extrametadata & Crowdknowing"
  • WilSmith (Vulcan) - "Linked Data Integration Framework"
  • Stephen Larson (Neuroscience Information Framework) - "NeuroLex: A Semantic Wiki for Neuroscience"

- "A Linked Data Approach for Integrating Multi-scale Models & Data for Human Health & the Environment"

  • Jeanne Holm (Data.gov / NASA-JPL), Chris Musialek (Data.gov / GSA) and Andrew Nicklin (New York City)

from last week's panel will also be returning to join us on the panel as discussants at this session

Session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2012_05_17

Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute

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Proceedings:

[09:15] anonymous morphed into George Thomas

[09:26] anonymous1 morphed into BernadetteHyland

[09:28] anonymous11 morphed into WilSmith

[09:29] anonymous2 morphed into Tom Tinsley

[09:30] anonymous2 morphed into Line Pouchard

[09:30] anonymous2 morphed into GaryBergCross

[09:31] anonymous3 morphed into BillNadal

[09:31] anonymous3 morphed into Stephen Larson

[09:31] anonymous3 morphed into SpyrosKotoulas

[09:32] anonymous3 morphed into JakubMoskal

[09:32] anonymous1 morphed into CJR

[09:33] anonymous1 morphed into BobPowers

[09:34] anonymous morphed into TedThibodeauJr

[09:34] anonymous morphed into Lisa Hartigan

[09:34] anonymous1 morphed into John Gregory

[09:35] Peter P. Yim: -- session started 9:35am PDT --

[09:36] anonymous2: How do morph? anonymous 2 - Charlie Engle

[09:37] Amanda Vizedom: Charlie - Hit "Settings" button at top, edit name.

[09:38] anonymous2 morphed into Charles Engle

[09:38] Charles Engle: Thank you!

[09:38] Amanda Vizedom: YW

[09:42] Amanda Vizedom: Charles, one more hint: if you revise name again and make it one word

(CharlesEngle), in the transcript it will auto-link to your profile page on the OntologWiki.

[09:43] anonymous morphed into Elizabeth Florescu

[09:39] Peter P. Yim: == JoelNatividad presenting ...

[09:53] Peter P. Yim: == WilSmith presenting ...

[09:54] George Thomas: Big Fan of LDIF!!

[09:55] George Thomas: nice to see many of the LDIF tools in the LOD2 stack :)

[10:05] WilSmith: yea slowly pushing the rock of LDIF adoption up the mountain :)

[10:02] Peter P. Yim: == Stephen Larson presenting ...

[10:04] Simon Spero: (SunSITE set up a collaborative neuroscience environment using PARC's lamba-MOO

back in 1993) This looks better

[10:19] Jesse Wang: LDIF has been used in Neurobase, a semantic wiki to integrate various sources of

neuroscience related data. The wiki is running at

http://neurowiki.alleninstitute.org/index.php/Main_Page

[10:20] Jesse Wang: Recap of Neuro Lex talk: NIF vision: Google for neuroscience databases.NeuroLex

uses semantic wiki to help integrate, curate and improve data quality (starting in vocabularies).

[10:20] Peter P. Yim: [since Jon Weers is not online yet] we are moving Bernadette's presentation up

[10:20] Peter P. Yim: == BernadetteHyland presenting ...

[10:33] Jack Park: http://callimachusproject.org looks really interesting

[10:35] George Thomas: http://www.hdiforum.org/

[10:36] George Thomas: the 'Health Datapalooza', as US Fed CTO Todd Park likes to say

[11:30] Frank Olken: Bernadette, It is most unfortunate that the Health Data Initiative Forum meeting

is scheduled on top of SemTech (June 3~7, 2012 - San Francisco).

[10:42] anonymous1 morphed into Ed Dodds

[10:44] Stephen Larson: Great presentation Bernadette! Definitely some areas of synergy between our

efforts!

[11:01] BernadetteHyland: @StephenLarson, thank and I would really enjoy speaking to you further

about your project experiences.

[11:02] Stephen Larson: @Bernadette -- definitely -- lets touch base after

[10:43] Peter P. Yim: == Peter P. Yim, Leo Obrst, Mike Dean, Ken Baclawski presenting ...

[10:44] anonymous1 morphed into Bo Newman

[10:47] Ed Dodds: FYI: Announcing the next Knight News Challenge: Data -

http://newschallenge.tumblr.com/post/23167779077/announcing-the-next-knight-news-challenge-data

[10:50] Jack Park: http://www.nsf.gov/geo/earthcube/

[10:50] GaryBergCross: See also http://earthcube.ning.com/groups for the various Earth Cube groups.

[11:08] Eric Chan: Ken mentioned about collaboration and social networking ontology ICOM (slide #9,

OOR), which is defined by OASIS ICOM TC. The committee specification draft

http://docs.oasis-open.org/icom/icom-ics/v1.0/csprd03/icom-ics-v1.0-csprd03.html is currently in

public review phase. We expect the TC to approve this draft as the Committee Specification of ICOM

v1 after the public review. Peter and I are nominating Ken to lead the effort for ICOM v2 to

incorporate social networking model.

[11:02] Peter P. Yim: == panel reactions now ...

[11:02] Line Pouchard: who is speaking please?

[11:02] BernadetteHyland: That is Jeanne Holm (Data.gov evangelist/NASA)

[11:05] Stephen Larson: http://neuinfo.org/about/index.shtm

[11:03] Peter P. Yim: I notice Jon Weers is on the voice bridge now

[11:06] Peter P. Yim: we'll try to move over to Jon Weers OpenEI presentation right after this comment

[11:08] Peter P. Yim: == Jon Weers presenting ...

[11:40] Jon Weers: Recaping phone convo: OpenEI is looking to host the second installment of an

Internation Effort to promote LOD and Open Government initiatives. Will be looking for participants,

and volunteers for organization. Feel free to contact me if interested.

[11:23] Peter P. Yim: == open Q&A and discussion now ...

[11:23] BillNadal: great presentations, thank you! can anyone speak to the need/usage for rules in

their projects or frameworks; i.e. the use of SWRL or RIF (rule interchange format)?

[11:29] George Thomas: starting to experiment with RIF impl's like

http://www.revelytix.com/content/rex - generally more interested in SPARQL centric approaches like

http://spinrdf.org/ though

[11:26] BillNadal: [ ref. various panelists' responses and PeterYim's suggestion to check out

ChrisWelty's RIF talk, and MartinOConnor's SWRL presentations on the

Ontolog Event Archives ] will do, thanks

[11:28] Peter P. Yim: == Does the community want to move things forward, after these two "Big Open Data"

sessions? How?

[11:28] Bo Newman: Most clearly would like to see this moved forward, only which I was in a position

to contribute

[11:30] George Thomas: I have a hard stop at 2:30 - want to again say thanks to Peter and the Ontolog

Forum co-conveners for putting together a great session today - I'm happy to support any

collaboration going forward - please see my bio page if anyone wants to follow up with me

[11:30] Mike Dean: I have to drop off for another telecon. Good session!

[11:31] Leo Obrst: Thanks, all!

[11:31] BernadetteHyland: I suggested that future discussions around Big Data, Open Government Data

expressed as Linked Data, etc include sub-domains who can help guide use cases for the application

of semantic technologies.

[11:31] Ed Dodds: Articles in the news recently articles related to Google's work: "Introducing the

Knowledge Graph: things, not strings"

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/introducing-knowledge-graph-things-not.html fwiw

[11:31] George Thomas: Things not Strings! :)

[11:31] Jesse Wang: I have a 11:30 meeting, got to go, thank you all for all the great presentations

and discussion!

[11:32] Peter P. Yim: @JesseWang - thank you for organizing this

[11:31] Jack Park: great talks! Bye

[11:32] BernadetteHyland: This was a great forum and I learned some new things, thank you Peter,

George, Jesse et all for coordinating this event & inviting the panel of speakers. Much appreciated!

[11:32] anonymous1 morphed into Jon Weers

[11:32] BillNadal: Thanks George, great links

[11:34] Bo Newman: I would be interested in hearing from those working in the area of

multi-perpspective ontologies and the automated identification of a person or organizationals

operational ontologies. bo.newman[at]km-fourm.org

[11:36] Peter P. Yim: @BernadetteHyland - speaking on the phone now, is Ravi Sharma

[11:35] Ed Dodds: [ref. RaviSharma's verbal remarks] Frame the discussion differently: not "return

on investment" but "return on innovation"

[11:39] Ed Dodds: Reid Hoffman could give numbers re: some of LinkedIn's data

[11:39] BernadetteHyland: @EdDodds, thanks, I'll reach out to Reid. Thank you

[11:40] Ed Dodds: http://crisismappers.net/ and maybe the ushahidi communties could talk about

disasters mapping, etc.

[11:40] Jon Weers: Recaping phone convo: OpenEI is looking to host the second installment of an

Internation Effort to promote LOD and Open Government initiatives. Will be looking for participants,

and volunteers for organization. Feel free to contact me if interested.

[11:40] Stephen Larson: Thanks for organizing a great session. Honored to be a part of it!

[11:41] Jon Weers: Thank you everyone! My apologies for my late arrival.

[11:42] BernadetteHyland: I was hoping Jeanne Holm would announce the upcoming International Open

Government Data Conference at the World Bank July 10-12, 2012. Since she must have had to drop off,

I forward this info FYR - They are accepting proposals for sessions and speakers now:

http://www.data.gov/communities/conference

[11:42] Peter P. Yim: Great session ... HUGE THANK YOU to all the presenters; and thanks, everyone, for

the participation!

[11:42] BernadetteHyland: Thank you!

[11:45] Peter P. Yim: @Bernadette - Thank YOU for the great talk; and, of course the leadership in

moving things forward!

[11:41] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 11:41am PDT --

-- end of in-session chat-transcript --

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