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Virtual Workshop on Semantics in Geospatial and Other Architectures: Design and Implementation - Tue 2013-05-07
This is a virtual workshop organized under an NSF INTEROP Grant by the Spatial Ontology Community of Practice (SOCoP)
Session Topic: Semantics in Geospatial and Other Architectures: Design and Implementation
Abstract: This is a virtual workshop focused on the design, use, and software development of semantic technology in geospatial and other architectures. Semantic technology can encompass ontologies, repositories, mappings, reasoners, and other components as well as linked data. A purpose of the workshop is to identify current systems using semantic technologies, learn why semantics were needed, describe and analyze how those systems are built (i.e., what technologies are being used both conceptually and in software development), identify commonalities in concept and software to possibly develop re-usable software templates, and identify unmet needs for future architectures, both for functionality and then software. The use of semantics can be for searching, data integration, question answering, or other needs, considering both research and implementation. One of the purposes is to gain examples of how to include semantic technology in, for example, geospatial portals, statewide information systems, spatial data infrastructures (e.g., NSDIs) database systems, and so on. Because the use of semantics in the geospatial area is still relatively new, other domains and applications are of interest.
Panelists / Briefings: (approximate times)
Session Chair: Dr. NancyWiegand (U of Wisconsin, Madison) - 12:30 Eastern time slides
- 12:40 DouglasFils (Ocean Leadership) - "Data Discovery and Integration
An exploration of concepts for IODP" slides
- 1:00 DamianGessler (iPlant Collaborative) - "Semantics for Cyberinfrastructure: The iPlant Collaborative's Semantic Web Platform" slides
- 1:20 DaveKolas (Raytheon BBN Technologies) - "Getting Started with [[GeoSPARQL]]" slides
- 1:40 VeronikaMegler (Portland State University) - "The Problem of Semantics in the Metadata Mess" slides
- 2:00 Naicong Li and PhilipMurphy (Redlands Institute & SDS Consortium) - "An Ontology-Driven Web Portal for Spatial Decision Support" slides
- 2:20 break
- 2:30 WenwenLi (Arizona State University) - "Knowledge Mining for Intelligent Geospatial Data Discovery" slides
- 2:50 ToddPehle (Orbis Technologies) - "Data and Service Discovery in Linked SDI and Linked VGI" slides
- 3:10 ChaoweiYang (George Mason University) - "Using Semantic Web to Optimize the Discovery, Access, and Utilization of Big Geospatial Data" slides
- 3:30 further comments or questions
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- Thank you to GaryBergCross for helping with this workshop and to PeterYim for hosting.
Archives
- Prepared presentation material (slides) for each speaker by clicking on the "slides" link associated with each presenation above :
- transcript of the online chat during the session
- Audio recording of the session ... [ 3:04:04 ; mp3 ; 21.07 MB ]
- its best that you listen to the session while having the respective presentations (linked above) opened in front of you. You'll be prompted to advance slides by the speaker.
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Abstract
Virtual Workshop on Semantics in Geospatial and Other Architectures: Design and Implementation - [ intro slides]
This is a virtual workshop focused on the design, use, and software development of semantic technology in various geospatial architectures. One of the purposes is to gain examples of how to include semantic technology in, for example, geospatial portals, statewide information systems, spatial data infrastructures (e.g., NSDIs) database systems, etc. Because the use of semantics in the geospatial area is still relatively new, other domains and applications are also of interest. Semantic technology can encompass ontologies, repositories, mappings, reasoners, and other components as well as linked data.
In particular, the purpose of the workshop is to identify current systems using semantic technologies, learn why semantics were needed, describe and analyze how those systems are built (i.e., what technologies are being used both conceptually and in software development), identify commonalities in concept and software to possibly develop re-usable software templates, and identify unmet needs for future architectures, both for functionality and then software. The use of semantics can be for searching, data integration, question answering, or other needs, considering both research and implementation.
This virtual workshop may lead to a 2 day in-person workshop in the fall, with possible publication opportunities.
Proceedings
Please refer to the above
IM Chat Transcript captured during the session
see raw transcript here.
(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)
Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.
-- begin in-session chat-transcript --
Chat transcript from room: socop_20130507
2013-05-07 GMT-08:00 [PDT]
[9:09] Peter P. Yim: This is the chat-workspace for the ...
virtual workshop on semantics in geospatial and other architectures: design and implementation
Date / Time: Tue 2013-05-07 ; 3-Hr session, starting 12:30pm EDT / 9:30am PDT / 16:30 UTC
Session Chair: Dr. Nancy Wiegand (U of Wisconsin, Madison)
Agenda: [pm EDT]
- 12:30 Nancy Wiegand (U of Wisconsin, Madison) - Chair: Opening
- 12:40 Douglas Fils (Ocean Leadership) - "Data Discovery and Integration An exploration of concepts for IODP"
- 1:00 Damian Gessler (iPlant Collaborative)
- "Semantics for Cyberinfrastructure: The iPlant Collaboratives Semantic Web Platform"
- 1:20 Dave Kolas (Raytheon BBN Technologies) - "Getting Started with GeoSPARQL"
- 1:40 Veronika Megler (Portland State University) - "The Problem of Semantics in the Metadata Mess"
- 2:00 Naicong Li and PhilipMurphy (Redlands Institute & SDS Consortium)
- "An Ontology-Driven Web Portal for Spatial Decision Support"
- 2:20 break
- 2:30 Wenwen Li (Arizona State University) - "Knowledge Mining for Intelligent Geospatial Data Discovery"
- 2:50 Todd Pehle (Orbis Technologies) - "Data and Service Discovery in Linked SDI and Linked VGI"
- 3:10 Chaowei Yang (George Mason University)
- "Using Semantic Web to Optimize the Discovery, Access, and Utilization of Big Geospatial Data"
- 3:30 further comments or questions
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Attendees: Nancy Wiegand (chair), AlberSanchez, Alex Mirzaoff, Alex Shkotin, Anne Thessen, Dalia Varanka,
Damian Gessler, Dan Cerys, Dave Kolas, Douglas Fils, Fran Lightsom, Francesca Quattri, GaryBergCross,
Jim Jacobs, Jim Kirby, Joel Bender, John Graybeal, MarshallXMa, Mike Dean, Naicong Li, Naijun Zhou,
NicholasDelRio, Ola Ahlqvist, PatrickWest, Paul Koch, Peter P. Yim, PhilipMurphy, Ralph Grove,
Robert Rovetto, TalesPaivaNogueira, Todd Pehle, Tom Tinsley, Veronika Megler, Wenwen Li, ...
WilliamMiller, DouglasNebert, Sergey Krikov, Song Gao, AhmadAssaf, BernardValentin, David Govoni, ...
proceedings:
[8:55] anonymous morphed into Naijun Zhou
[9:15] anonymous morphed into Douglas Fils
[9:23] anonymous morphed into Naicong Li
[9:26] anonymous morphed into Veronika Megler
[9:26] anonymous morphed into Damian Gessler
[9:28] anonymous morphed into Anne Thessen
[9:28] anonymous2 morphed into PhilipMurphy
[9:28] anonymous morphed into Nancy Wiegand
[9:29] anonymous morphed into Jim Jacobs
[9:29] anonymous2 morphed into Wenwen Li
[9:30] anonymous morphed into Ralph Grove
[9:30] anonymous2 morphed into Ola Ahlqvist
[9:33] anonymous2 morphed into Alex Shkotin
[9:35] anonymous2 morphed into PatrickWest
[9:35] anonymous2 morphed into Dave Kolas
[9:36] anonymous2 morphed into MarshallXMa
[9:37] anonymous4 morphed into Wenwen Li
[9:29] GaryBergCross: Hello all.
[9:36] Anne Thessen: Hello everyone!
[9:37] GaryBergCross: I guess all but Chaowei and Todd are on the call so far...unless they are anon
[9:37] Peter P. Yim: == Nancy Wiegand opens the session ...
[9:38] anonymous7 morphed into NicholasDelRio
[9:38] anonymous5 morphed into Robert Rovetto
[9:39] anonymous1 morphed into John Graybeal
[9:39] GaryBergCross: The slide has Veronika as last speaker but she will be speaking at 1:40. There
are new slides on the site.
[9:41] anonymous1 morphed into AlberSanchez
[9:42] anonymous1 morphed into anonymous123
[9:46] anonymous1 morphed into TalesPaivaNogueira
[9:42] John Graybeal: skype isn't actually connecting me to the conference...
[9:44] John Graybeal: yeah, the joinconference on skype is a fail for me, will see if I can make
something else work. Sorry!
[9:46] Peter P. Yim: @John - try using your phone or skype-out and call (206) 402-0100 ... PIN=141184#
[9:51] GaryBergCross: @johnG did you toggle in the PIN on Skype???
[9:42] List of members: AlberSanchez, Alex Shkotin, Anne Thessen, anonymous, anonymous123,
Dalia Varanka, Damian Gessler, Dave Kolas, Douglas Fils, Fran Lightsom, Gary Berg-Cross, Jim Jacobs,
Jim Kirby, Joel Bender, John Graybeal, Marshall X Ma, Mike Dean, Naicong Li, Naijun Zhou, Nancy Wiegand,
Nick Del Rio, Ola Ahlqvist, Patrick West, Peter P. Yim, Philip Murphy, Ralph Grove, RobRovetto,
Tom Tinsley, Veronika Megler, vnc2, Wenwen Li
[9:50] GaryBergCross: 30 people on the Chat...
[9:58] GaryBergCross: Schedule 1:00 Damian Gessler, iPlant Collaborative 1:20 Dave Kolas, Raytheon
BBN Technologies 1:40 Veronika Megler, Portland State University 2:00 Naicong Li, Redlands Institute
2:20 BREAK 2:30 Wenwen Li, Arizona State University 2:50 Todd Pehle, Orbis Technologies 3:10 Chaowei
(Phil) Yang, George Mason University 3:30 Any further questions
[9:42] Peter P. Yim: == Douglas Fils presenting now ...
[10:00] GaryBergCross: Good architecture representation in slide 11
[10:07] MarshallXMa: @DouglasFils: Can you list a few example vocabularies used in your works. You
mentioned vocabularies are important on slides 4 and 10 of your presentation. thx.
[10:20] Douglas Fils: @MarshallXMa: I am working to get our current vocabularies update into the web
service.. some of the older versions are at http://data.oceandrilling.org/core/ We will try and use
the w3c patterns for sharing the current vocabularies soon..
[10:21] Douglas Fils: these are just simple SKOS files.. we would really like to leverage off NERC
http://www.bodc.ac.uk/products/web_services/vocab/
[10:43] MarshallXMa: @DouglasFils: Thanks.
[10:02] Peter P. Yim: == Damian Gessler presenting ...
[10:13] anonymous1 morphed into Dan Cerys
[10:21] Peter P. Yim: @DamianGessler - does enabling a site to serve the data need to be done on the
server side by the website provider, or will an enabled client be able to do it on any website?
[10:22] Peter P. Yim: if the former, do you have a list of your "partners"?
[10:25] Damian Gessler: @PeterYim - data providers host a SSWAP OWL RDF/XML graph for each service
they offer. This "graph" describes their service semantically, allowing for discovery and
(automated) engagement.
[10:29] Peter P. Yim: @DamianGessler - since your technology is quite domain independent, do you have
plans to apply that to other domains beyond "plants" (if so, what domains are being worked on or
considered?
[10:32] Damian Gessler: @PeterYim - geo would be natural (esp. because the of the scientific overlap
between bio/geo/plant research). But no firm plans yet; open to follow-up. You are correct that the
core technology is domain independent.
[10:33] Peter P. Yim: Thank you, Damian
[10:22] anonymous2 morphed into Paul Koch
[10:23] anonymous1 morphed into Todd Pehle
[10:23] Peter P. Yim: == Dave Kolas presenting ...
[10:38] Fran Lightsom: Can anybody else hear?
[10:39] Peter P. Yim: @Fran - yes, I can still hear Dave Kolas speaking
[10:41] anonymous1 morphed into Francesca Quattri
[10:42] Fran Lightsom: Thanks. I needed to redial.
[10:45] Dave Kolas: Sorry, apparently my sickness resulted in me talking more slowly than usual.
Please let me know if you have any questions about GeoSPARQL.
[10:47] John Graybeal: @Dave: It was a very nicely put together summary of the technology, very neat
to follow. What are the implications on the inference engine of having to satisfy geospatial
relation queries? (How many support it, are they very much optimized (yet)?)
[10:50] Dave Kolas: The implementations that exist so far use geospatial indices to improve the
processing of the queries, much like rdbms with geospatial extensions
[10:50] Dave Kolas: So query planning gets a little bit more complicated
[10:51] Dave Kolas: There are currently 3 implementations of which I am aware (Oracle, Parliament,
and Strabon)
[10:52] Dave Kolas: Our hope is that other triple store vendors who currently have some proprietary
spatial extensions (ex, Virtuoso) will eventually support GeoSPARQL
[10:45] Peter P. Yim: == Veronika Megler presenting ...
[10:53] anonymous1 morphed into Alex Mirzaoff
[11:07] Peter P. Yim: == Naicong Li presenting ...
[11:13] Peter P. Yim: relay an anonymous post - URL to SDS Portal http://www.spatial.redlands.edu/sds/
[11:17] GaryBergCross: Break coming up after Naicong
[11:17] Peter P. Yim: @NaicongLi & PhilipMurphy - for the "collected" tools and models, are you working
with those from your collaborators/partners or are they "discovered" from publications and the web?
[12:37] Naicong Li: Peter -- I just saw your question earlier - "for the "collected" tools and
models, are you working with your collaborators/partners or are they "discovered" from publications
and the web?" The answer is "both".
[11:21] GaryBergCross: Naicong's updated slides are on the Wiki (with "export" properly labeled now on slide#15).
[11:24] Peter P. Yim: @PhilipMurphy - possible typo on your email address on slide#28
[11:35] PhilipMurphy: Peter well spotted! -- should be philip_murphy@spatial.redlands.edu
[11:36] Peter P. Yim: @Philip ... you might want to send an update of the slides to Gary so he can swap
it in for the archives
[12:04] GaryBergCross: Updated slides for Naicong Li linked to the wiki session page now.
[11:31] Peter P. Yim: == [2:31pm EDT] Nancy Wiegand: we are having break now; resuming in 1 min. ...
[11:35] Peter P. Yim: == Wenwen Li presenting ...
[11:41] GaryBergCross: @WenwenLi - the attribute level looks like a values level.
[11:52] anonymous2 morphed into Alex
[11:54] Peter P. Yim: == Todd Pehle presenting ...
[12:10] GaryBergCross: @Todd - Is subset the right way to partition some space?
[12:21] Todd Pehle: Hi Gary, VoID subsets are generic ways to partition a dataset (not so much a space);
One obvious use for this is finding the download URL of an RDF file by "Country" (say in Geonames dataset)
[12:22] Todd Pehle: You could also specify these feature types have data in that particular "Country"
[12:15] GaryBergCross: @Dave @Todd You 2 need to have a Hackathon on these ideas..
[12:17] Dave Kolas: @Todd... can you repeat the question you asked about representing CRS's in RDF?
[12:24] Todd Pehle: Dave, I wanted to use geosparql:asWKT to describe BBOX; as I understand it, CRS
is specified inside the geometry literal...is this correct? I was hoping I could directly assert CRS
in RDF with geosparql vocab.
[12:25] Dave Kolas: The CRS only lives in the literal in GeoSPARQL, but you could potentially
reference its uri with a different property... I'm not sure what you mean about using asWKT to
describe BBOX? Do you mean an instance of a bounding box, or the concept of bounding boxes?
[12:29] Todd Pehle: @Dave Ok. Will check out the CRS URI...I was referencing an instance of a
bounding box (encoded as wkt).
[12:31] Dave Kolas: So wouldn't a bounding box representation require a crs, and go in there in the normal way?
[12:32] Dave Kolas: Why do you want it *not* in the literal?
[12:32] Todd Pehle: Sorry, should have explained better. I was looking for a way to ask "What feature
types are in dataset ABC that use EPSG:4326?".
[12:32] Dave Kolas: Ah!
[12:32] Todd Pehle: ...without having to scan every WKT literal to detect.
[12:33] Dave Kolas: Got it. If there isn't one already, there should be a filter function for getting
the crs out of a literal
[12:33] Dave Kolas: and that could be optimized on the kb side
[12:34] Todd Pehle: Great. Thanks!
[12:24] Peter P. Yim: == Chaowei Yang (Phil) presenting ...
[12:25] GaryBergCross: Should slides be advancing?
[12:29] Peter P. Yim: @Phil - ref. your slide#7 ... are your planning to stand up your own ontology
repository; if not, what/who are the ontology repository people you are planning to work with?
[12:43] Peter P. Yim: @Chaowei - please look at what we are doing in the OOR Initiative
- see: http://oor.net ... and in particular the SOCoP instance at: http://socop.oor.net
[12:39] GaryBergCross: @Chaowei This use of social science methods for developing ontologies / ODPs
is a good topic for a future SOCoP workshop.
[12:40] Peter P. Yim: == Nancy Wiegand: open Q&A ...
[12:36] GaryBergCross: BTW Follow on questions and discussion is possible later using the
SOCoP Forum http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/socop-forum/
[12:38] GaryBergCross: Any thoughts out there on the value and interest in a workshop on this in the
Fall? Who would be interested in coming?
[12:43] Jim Jacobs: Many thanks to all the speakers and organizers. Cheers!
[12:47] GaryBergCross: @Jim - One step in that direction is the deepening modeling of Roles which
are social in nature... Nicola Guarino is one source of these ideas..
[12:48] Peter P. Yim: == Nancy Wiegand: -- session adjourned - 3:47 pm EDT --
-- end of in-session chat-transcript --
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Attendees
- Attended:
- Nancy Wiegand (chair)
- Douglas Fils
- Damian Gessler
- Dave Kolas
- Veronika Megler
- Naicong Li
- PhilipMurphy
- Wenwen Li
- Todd Pehle
- Chaowei Yang (PhilYang)
- GaryBergCross
- Peter P. Yim
- AlberSanchez
- Alex Mirzaoff
- Alex Shkotin
- Anne Thessen
- Dalia Varanka
- Dan Cerys
- Fran Lightsom
- Francesca Quattri
- Jim Jacobs
- Jim Kirby
- Joel Bender
- John Graybeal
- MarshallXMa
- Mike Dean
- Naijun Zhou
- NicholasDelRio
- Ola Ahlqvist
- PatrickWest
- Paul Koch
- Ralph Grove
- Robert Rovetto
- TalesPaivaNogueira
- Tom Tinsley
- WilliamMiller
- DouglasNebert
- Sergey Krikov
- Song Gao
- AhmadAssaf
- BernardValentin
- David Govoni
- ...
- Expecting:
- YassineLassoued
- DeborahMacPherson
- Bev Corwin
- ChrisJenkins
- Mary Wong
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- please add yourself to the list if you are a member of the SOCoP or Ontolog community
- Regrets:
- Torsten Hahmann
- ...