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Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-3 - Tue 2012_07_17

Title: "Standardisation Coordination and Ontology Repositories"

Session Co-chairs: Professor MichaelGruninger (University of Toronto) & Professor JohnBateman (University of Bremen)

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  • Date: Tuesday, 17-Jul-2012
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Abstract

Title: "Standardisation Coordination and Ontology Repositories"

Abstract:

The upcoming FOIS Conference will feature meetings of the SIGs and Technical Committees of IAOA (International Association of Ontology and its Applications), in particular, the Standarisation Coordination Committee and the Ontology Repositories Committees. The Conference Call of July 17 will be devoted to preparation for these two Committee Meetings. The focus will be on identifying progress from the past year and to collect ideas for how IAOA can best support work in ontology-based standards and ontology repositories.

If people cannot physically attend FOIS, this will be a great opportunity to provide input.

Agenda

Presentation: "Standardisation Coordination and Ontology Repositories"

  • Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call
  • 1. Opening - co-chairs ... [ slides ]
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  • 2. Framing the issues
  • 3. Q & A and open discussion [ All ] -- please refer to process above
  • 4. Summary / Next steps / Announcements - (co-chairs)

Proceedings

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IM Chat Transcript captured during the session

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

[08:09] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-3 - Tue 2012_07_17

Topic: "Standardisation Coordination and Ontology Repositories"

Session Co-chairs: Professor Michael Grüninger (University of Toronto) & Professor John Bateman (University of Bremen)

Please refer to details on thesession page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2012_07_17

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Attendees: Duncan Goheen, John Bateman, John Graybeal, Ken Baclawski, Leo Obrst, Michael Grüninger,

Mike Dean, Naicong Li, Pat Cassidy, Peter P. Yim, PierreYvesSchobbens, Steve Ray, Terry Longstreth & TomTinsley.

Proceedings

anonymous morphed into Tom Tinsley

anonymous1 morphed into Duncan Goheen

Peter P. Yim: == Michael Grüninger presenting the opening slides ...

Leo Obrst: [continuing from the examples of ontology-related standards efforts cited in MichaelGruninger's presentation]

Also, for repositories: ISO/IEC 11179 Metadata Registries.

Leo Obrst: OMG has some initiatives: e.g., Semantic Information Modeling for Federation (SIMF)

championed by CoryCasanave.

Ken Baclawski: I am starting to work with the OASIS standards, and I have some very early experience.

I can talk briefly about this.

Peter P. Yim: as an extension from OntologySummit2009 - "Toward Ontology-based Standards" ... there has

been some effort (e.g. OASIS ICOM TC / UoM_Ontology_Standard / OASIS QUOMOS TC ) making attempts to

drive Standards to be expressed in *both* natural language *and* an ontology language ... would that

be another category, or would you consider that as "Standards containing ontologies"?

anonymous morphed into John Graybeal

Terry Longstreth: Stretching a little further: ISO 16363 - Audit and certification of trustworthy

digital repositories

Leo Obrst: There are also some quasi-standards such as UCore-Semantic Layer and Command and Control

(C2) Core Ontology, aligned with the XSD-based vocabularies of UCore and C2 Core (a mid-level

vocabulary). UCore-SL was developed by both U. Buffalo and MITRE. C2 Core Ontology by U. Buffalo:

Barry Smith, Bill Mandrick, etc.

Leo Obrst: Also, BillMcCarthy a few years back was promoting an accounting ontology standard. There

was an NSF workshop circa 2009-2010, but I don't know current status.

Peter P. Yim: [added subsequently] I believe current efforts of the EDM Council (championed by

Mike Bennett et al.) is informed by (?may even be in collaboration with) BillMcCarthy's work on the

REA accounting ontology.

Michael Grüninger: Perhaps one deliverable for the Committee over the next year can be a document

that shows how ontologies and ontological analysis can assist people in developing and evaluating

standards. This could be coordinated with the IAOA Education Committee.

Steve Ray: You all might be interested in a tool I wrote with a student to validate a smart grid

standard. We converted it into OWL, then put it on a cloud as a SPARQL endpoint. See

http://fsgim.sv.cmu.edu

Peter P. Yim: @Steve - cool!

anonymous morphed into Naicong Li

Terry Longstreth: @Ken - can you contrast use of ontology to capture meanings about standards

transitions, distinct from metadata management approaches?

Ken Baclawski: @Terry: I am working on both of them. The hope is that the two can be integrated, but

I am treating them independently at the moment.

John Bateman: @Ken: due to some noise at my end, I couldn't hear what your scripts are working from?

John Bateman: Application of ontologies in standards at two 'levels': metadata (for management and

development, lifecycle issues, etc.) and content data (where ontologies would actually be providing

a formal capture of some of the content expressed in the standard). This will require modeling of

particular domains and from different perspectives for different communities. When this is in place,

then ontologies could be shown (hopefully!) to support and encourage better validation and checking

of what the standard is stating. This last then also should overlap synergistically with other work

focusing on enriching documents in general with more semantics.

Ken Baclawski: The work I am doing at OASIS involves (1) generating OWL (including the various

profiles), RDF, XSD, CL, and other formats from the authoritative document that specifies the

standard (most commonly a Word document); (2) extracting the metadata for the OASIS standards

(status, authors, contributors, versions, etc.); (3) harmonization and mapping between standards. I

am automating (1) and (2).

John Bateman: @Ken: "(1) generating OWL (including the various profiles), RDF, XSD, CL, and other

formats from the authoritative document that specifies the standard (most commonly a Word document)"

that is very interesting; this overlaps with a whole bunch of work on semantic analysis of plain

text (both free and controlled). It would be interesting to see how you are attempting to do this...

since usually (and in general), getting content out of natural text requires more than a 'script'.

Ken Baclawski: @John: I am taking advantage of the fact that the standards conform to a particular

presentation style. I am not trying to extract the ontology from natural language text.

Michael Grüninger: [things that the IAOA "Standardization Coordination" Comiittee might do]

Deliverable 1: What resources and tools can we make available to the standards community to assist

them in understanding ontologies and their application

Michael Grüninger: Deliverable 2: wiki that captures ontology-related standards

Peter P. Yim: [ref. Michael's "Deliverable 2" above] The "OntologiesAndStandards" homepage on the wiki

is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologiesAndStandards ... we can start new sections

on that page, or start sub-pages and extensions pages from there

Peter P. Yim: there is an upcoming collaborative effort with earth scientists to organize a mini-series

on Ontolog, with the kick-off session is scheduled for Thu 2012.08.09

Leo Obrst: Yes, this is the NSF Earth Cube community effort in geo-sciences.

Peter P. Yim: see the upcoming plans for the Earth Science and Ontology community collaboration

- http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EarthScienceOntolog/GettingOrganized

Naicong Li: The idea of a geek squad has been floating around in the Earth Cube semantics/ontology

group the idea of having ontology engineering experts helping domain scientists developing domain

specific ontologies. Perhaps people in OOR can participate and help

Peter P. Yim: IAOA could/should definitely evangelize the use of ontologies and encourage ontology

authors to make them available from some instance of OOR (somewhat akin to "IAOA supported Events")

Leo Obrst: There was an activity UoM that came out of the Ontology Summit 2009. I'm not sure where

this is yet.

Steve Ray: unfortunately, for lack of NIST support, the UoM (as in the OASIS QUOMOS TC) effort is

stalled.

John Bateman: [ref. PatCassidy's remark that, despite modularization efforts, effective integration

might still hinge upon a shared foundational ontology] @Pat: sermon 2: modular ontologies moves

beyond that Pat, integration is exactly what the effort is on, as Michael said: at the WoMo workshop

that is the way to go.

Steve Ray: One strong need is for either OOR or IAOA to provide registry services for authoritative

URIs for a variety of data types and measured quantities.

Ken Baclawski: @Steve: I agree that a URI registry is important. The OOR is a federation and OOR

instances are not required to be connected, so it might not be sufficient for providing

authoritative URIs. The IAOA could be a way to provide such URIs, perhaps by running a "root" OOR.

Leo Obrst: Folks, must go. Thanks!

Michael Grüninger: [potential service 3] Perhaps the role of the IAOA Committee on Ontology

Repositories can be to help bring content (i.e. ontologies) to the endeavours such as OOR which are

building the ontologies

Michael Grüninger: [potential service 4] This Technical Committee will also serve as liaison among

different projects that are developing ontology repositories

Peter P. Yim: for info relating to IAOA committees and the mailing lists and wiki pages supporting them

- see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?IAOA#nid2HWG

Peter P. Yim: very useful session ... Thanks, everyone!

Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 9:55am PDT --

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