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[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2007-03-22

  • Topic: Ontolog operations planning and review meeting

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Thursday, March 22, 2007
  • Start Time: 10:30am PDT / 1:30pm EDT / 17:30 GMT/UTC
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Agenda Ideas

(please insert items you would like to see covered here)

we want to go with this project

  • discussion: should we split the mailing list so the series technical discussion have their own list (without getting members who just want to be involved in the general discussion overwhelmed)

Agenda & Proceedings

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes

3) Roll-call of participants

  • Welcome new Ontolog community members
    • we now have ~340 subscribers on the [ontolog-forum] list - these will include the general membership, comprising active members, members and observers
    • a total of ~450 subscribers on the [ontolog-invitation] list - this is our event announcement list (our membership would be a subset of those who are subscribed here.)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)

  • Scheduled Ontolog Events:
    • Thursday, 29-March-2007 - Dr. Steven Ray (NIST) presented the 5th Event in the Joint NIST-Ontolog-NCOR "Ontology Evaluation & Measurement" Mini-Series - this was a panel session on the subject of "Probabilistic Reasoning and Ontology Evaluation" - Panelists: Professor Kenneth Baclawski, Professor Kathryn Blackmond Laskey, Dr. Paulo Costa & Dr. Terry Janssen ... Please refer to details at the session wiki page at: ConferenceCall_2007_03_29 ... Audio archives of the session is now available!   
    • Thursday, 12-April-2007 - Dr. Matthew West presented the 6th Event in the "Database And Ontology" Mini-Series - Mr. Edward Barkmeyer from NIST was our invited speaker and gave a talk on "Ontologies as the Next Generation Information Models" ... Please refer to details at the session wiki page, at: ConferenceCall_2007_04_12 ... Audio archives of the session is now available!    - awaiting details
  • Ongoing, of couse is:

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues

  • see 8c below

6) Follow-ups from previous calls

7) Current Project Status Report

  • Status CctRepresentation and UblOntology project work
  • Status of ProtegeKIF project work
    • nothing new to report
  • status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work
    • Rex: new NHIN leadership; AHIC sort of in flux; AHRQ doing ongoing work ...
    • Rex / Bob: Marc Wine reassigned at GSA, therefore not heading HITOP anymore; Brand is filling-in in the interim.
  • UBL liaison report
    • UBL has agreed to co-sponsor "OntologySummit2007"
  • SICoP / ONTAC liaison report
  • NCOR liaison report
    • Rex: Healthinformatics committee may change from a phone conference communication mode to a e-mail list mode
  • Planning team report - see item 8d below

8) Key Issues discussion:

  • 8b. The OntologTaxoThesaurus Project: where we are now; and where do we want to go with this project
    • Bob: Bob and Denise put together a recap (draft) on "where we are now; and where do we want to go with this project"
    • Peter P. Yim has introduced Aj Chen who is coordinating the W3C Scientific Publishing task force, who runs a semantic search site and has experience with Lucene (the open source search engine) to join us in this project
    • Denise and Bob will reconvene on Sunday Mar-25, will firm up the directions and then post the document
    • Denise: picking up the work from last summer, will re-run inventory, develop a profile, and then talk to AJ to leverage on his SEARCH expertise
    • taking the taxonomy domain forward
  • 8c. Community Planning
    • discussion: should we split the mailing list so the series technical discussion have their own list (without getting members who just want to be involved in the general discussion overwhelmed)
      • ref:
      • the general feeling of this meeting is that the interdisciplinary collaboration and learning opportunity is way too precious to forfeit (which we will if we spin off the current discussion to another list). We should not spin-off the discussion list; client-side message filtering (helping people put the ontolog meesgae into a separate folder) is preferrable.
        • a wiki page has already been set up, please help populate that page with instructions on how to set filters up (for different mail clients; and other means of helping users handle our forum traffic.) See: DealingWithMailingListTraffic
      • maybe some fine tuning of the "digest" mode threshold could help too (unfortunately, the threshold that can be tuned is in number of KB and not the number of message in the mailman system that is being used. The latter would have been great.)
    • Notes on Discussion at this session:
      • Kurt suggests that when we get to 500 members, we should do something to celebrate
  • 8d. event planning - item not discussed
    • invited (need schedule confirmation): Bill Andersen
    • (discussed before and) about to invite: Adam Pease (update on one of the most poipular talks; KurtConrad), DeborahMcGuinness (on Inference Web; ElisaKendall), Mark Musen (on NCBO and its new "bioportal"; prompted by BarrySmith)

9) New project proposals - item not discussed

10) Sponsorship and funding - item not discussed

11) Other business - item not discussed

12) Next meeting date and adjourn

  • Our next meeting/call will be the Thu 2007.03.22, ... details will be at: ConferenceCall_2007_03_22 ... talk to you then!
  • this call session adjourned 11:33 am PDT


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