Ontolog Forum

OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Fri 2008-06-06

OpenOntologyRepository team conference call, Fri 2008.06.06, 1.0~1.5 Hr. call starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 UTC

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Friday, June 6, 2008
  • Start Time: 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours
  • Dial-in Number:
    • Direct call from from Skype: +990008275823120
    • When calling in from a phone, use Conference ID: "5823120#"
    • from a US telephone (US): +1-605-475-8590 (South Dakota, USA)
    • from Europe, call:
      • Austria 0820-4000-1574
      • Belgium 070-35-9989
      • France 0826-100-277
      • Germany 01805-00-7649
      • Ireland 0818-270-034
      • Italy 0848-390-175
      • Netherlands 0870-001-932
      • Spain 0902-886-051
      • Switzerland 0848-560-195
      • UK 0870-738-0763
    • callers from other countries please dial into either one of the US or European numbers
  • Shared-screen support (VNC session) will be started 5 minutes before the call at:
    • view-only password: "ontolog"
    • if you plan to be logging into this shared-screen option (which the speaker may be navigating), and you are not familiar with the process, please try to call in 5 minutes before the start of the session so that we can work out the connection logistics. Help on this will generally not be available once the presentation starts.
  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.


  • Expecting:
    • Leo Obrst
    • ... if you are coming to the meeting, please add your name above (plus your affiliation, if you aren't already a member of the community) above, or e-mail <> so that we can reserve enough resources to support everyone's participation. ...

Agenda Ideas

  • Mike: walkthru of some Java interfaces and shell classes that could form the basis for an initial OOR implementation based on the roadmap presented at Ontology Summit 2008.
  • Peter / Leo / Mike: a possible "Synergies and Gaps" panel session - Jun-13 or Jun-20?
  • Peter: establishing our short-term action plans

(please insert your suggested agenda items here)

Agenda & Proceedings

1. Meeting called to order:

  • review and adopt agenda

2. Roll Call:

3. Status Review and Discussion:

  • Urgent issues:
  • Discussions:
Further to the discussion at our May-9 call and subsequent announcement, breakout subgroups will report back on their discussions/recommendations in the following four major areas:
  • Short-term Planning - Mike Dean
    • (from our last call) Revisiting MikeDean's proposed roadmap
    • Mike's update:
    • walkthru of some Java interfaces and shell classes that could form the basis for an initial OOR implementation based on the roadmap presented at Ontology Summit 2008.
      • see under: go to 'doc'
      • Ravi and Tood suggestions: update, versioning, semantic search, rule-based, auto-negotiated policy, ontology download, ...
      • Kate: mapping to requirements and use cases (K has a mapping tool that may help) ...
      • including UML? ... will take this up with our OMG folks (Evan, Elisa, et al.)
      • ALL: Great job, Mike!
      • probably need a session for Mike to present this to a larger audience and then allow people to provide comments and feedback via the [oor-forum] list ... we'll try to set this up
    • Peter: CIM3 has agreed to provide initial infrastructure support, and has assigning a server for the OOR project (a 64-bit quad cpu SMP x86 server with 16 GB memory, running [[CentOS]] 5.1) ... it is online now (canonical name: which I will probably call <> ... we can map [[OpenOntologyReporsitory]].org and [[OpenOntologyReporsitory]].net to that when we are a bit more ready.
    • Michelle: Honeywell is also assigning a server that will be used for the BuildingServicePerformance and possibly the OOR projects. I have a proposal in, which I will have an outcome in two weeks
  • Resource & Funding - Ken Baclawski
    • from previous calls:
      • possibilities - government agencies (NSF?, NIST?, whoever would fund open infrastructure, DARPA, IARPA (Jeff), ... etc.); EU funders; Vulcan (Mark)?; bring in W3C in a exploratory (XG) working group (e.g. Semantic Web Deployment) (although they are a funding sink rather than a funding source; but good for visibility);   
        • grant proposal team(s) / submit proposal(s) to
        • Frank: NSF next solicitations due July-1, interop, data network partners, programs coming back
          • consider NSF-OCI (Office of Cyber Infrastructure)
        • try contacting Todd Hughes and see if DARPA is a possibility (Leo)
        • Peter: consider multiple smalls proposals and a big one ($20 million +/-) to make OOR a sustainable OOR operation
        • consider Foundations, and institutions
        • Fabian: the climate at NIST (now that they are hosting the summit on this particular theme) would be conducive ... we should ping Steve on this.
        • we should set aside some off-line time to discuss this when some of us are at the summit F2F, which did not happen.
        • Peter is working (offline; exploratory, and not considered part of the OOR team activities) on setting up a brainstorming call between established grantees and agencies who may be supportive of this endeavor - still outstanding; will share relevant results with this group after that has happened, as appropriate. -- this is still outstanding
    • Ken: will report progress at next call
  • Use Cases & Requirements - K_Goodier with Ravi Sharma, Peter P. Yim, Todd Schneider & Frank Alvidrez
    • from previous calls:
      • soliciting 'early adopter' partners who can offer up their ontologies, help refine requirements, and provide user feedback.
      • the immediate people should be projects represented by those the two joint OOR-OntologySummit2008 Requirements panel discussion sessions (3/27 & 4/3/2008)
    • K: we had a phone call Mon 2008.05.19 to kick-off the discussion
      • some of the outcomes are captured at: OpenOntologyRepository_Requirement
      • we want to make sure things map back to earlier discussions on requirements
      • will create a template for harnessing early adopters who will provide us with use cases
    • K: will try to have another subgroup meeting next week ... members to email K their availability
  • Organization & Process - Peter P. Yim
    • from previous calls:
      • need to clearly identify team membership: active members vs. observers; and, more importantly, who are voting (decision making) members?
        • Active members: those who will be (a) building the OOR, and (b) those who will be early adopters with content (open ontologies) AND have specific requirement input to provide -- does that sound good? (Yes: Peter, Bruce, Fabian)
          • on suggestion from Ravi / 2008.05.23 - clarifying: group (a) to include those contributing to infrastructure, code development, architecture design, etc.
        • will need to deliberate on this when we have more people on the call ... and/or doing it through the mailing list
      • how shall we organize ourselves? ... sub-workgroups? how many? <--(discussion deferred to next meeting)
      • relationship to Ontolog? sponsors? funders?
        • discussion postponed until we have a clearer approach toward funding
    • Peter: some thoughts on process:
      • in view of MikeDean's proposed roadmap, I think (a proposition here) that notion may have to morph into something like:
        • (i) a set of recommendations, which the summit Communique now serves

... maybe with additions that others on the team, mainly early adopters, may further propose;

        • (ii) which then translates to a set of (somewhat coordinator, but

modularized) implementation tasks ... again, maybe with additions that others on the team, mainly implementors, may further propose;

        • (iii) then implementor (or implementation subgroups) will step up and

"own" particular modularized task, and move ahead in a open source development mode, using a transparent process while doing so.

4. New Issues:

5. Any Other Business:

  • From our last call:
    • Todd Schneider raised some questions trying to clarify how private companies may participate (when they have both open and close contents) ... Peter suggested some answers, by drawing upon some of the proposed ideas in MikeDean's presentation at the summit F2F.
      • Todd and Ravi would also go back to the OntologySummit2008_Communique to see if enough flexibility is left open in the Communique ... and tell us what they think at the next call.
      • Peter: anyhow, it should be noted that the Communique only forms an important reference, and not a mandate, for the open development work for the OOR community.

6. Action items:

  • Ravi:
    • volunteering to help Mike Dean on Documentation on OOR (Implementation at our ONTOLOG URL: and also at GForge open source repository Shown by MikeDean)as suggested by Todd Schneider (1IVQ)
    • Ravi Sharma Suggested Addition of Update and Versioning functionality in OOR implementation of Mike Dean. Also UML as potential future language addition to use ODM OMG Functionality, Export XMI functions and Depictions of Ontologies in UML Models etc. Also Agreed by Rex Brooks (1IVR)
    • Use case and Requirements links to Mike's implementation as suggested by Kate and Agreed by Mike.
  • our short-term plan:
    • tasks
    • deliverables
    • Timeline / Milestones:

7. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Next Meeting:
    • next OOR-team meeting Fri 2008.06.20 - 1.0~1.5 Hr. starting 12:00noon EDT / 9:00am PDT - see (closer to the time): OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_06_20 - ??? depending on whether this will conflict with the developing "Synergies and Gaps" panel session. Will confirm via the [oor-forum] list
    • Note: earlier resolution: all team members please (if possible) block out Fridays 1.5 Hr starting 12:00pm EDT / 9:00am PDT / 16:00 GMT/UTC
  • Call adjourned at: 10:31 am PDT


notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2008.06.06-10:31am PDT

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.