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OpenOntologyRepository: "OOR Strategy, Tactics and Action Planning" Discussion Session - Tue 2012_12_04

This is a regular monthly OOR Team meeting. Besides covering the nominal team status review and planning, we will continue the "OOR Strategy, tactics and action planning" discussion, and pick up from where we left off at OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_12_04, but in particular, we might focus our discussion today on what we can do at the upcoming OntologySummit2013

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, 11-Dec-2012
  • Start Time: 7:30am PST / 10:30am EST / 4:30pm CET / 15:30 GMT/UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: 1.0~1.5 hours
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  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.

Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • ...
    • (please add yourself to the list above if you are a member of the community, or, rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com> with the event title/date and your name and affiliation)

Agenda Ideas

  • regular OOR team status review
  • supporting and leveraging Ontology Summit 2013
  • plan, confirm and make additions to the OOR event calendar
  • Focused discussion on the tactics and action plans that will help

put the recently refined OOR Strategy in place.

  • ... (add yours)

Agenda & Proceedings

Archives:

1. Meeting called to order:

  • Michael Grüninger took the chair and welcome everyone
  • Peter P. Yim volunteered to collate the notes, but urged everyone to capture their thoughts and document them on the chat board, as usual.
  • review and adopt agenda

2. Roll Call:

  • welcome and intro of new member(s) (if applicable)

3. Key discussion:

  • 3.1 Team priority: Review and update our "Most Critical Task(s) At Hand" list
    • ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OpenOntologyRepository#nid17YH
    • consider adding to the list work that address the two focused areas identified in the recent strategic planning discussion
      • developing reference practices, and the technology involved, to support OOR-augmented OntologyBasedStandards
      • developing a reference practice, and the technology involved, to support an OOR-augmented "big data" application (such as "tackling research data" ref.)
    • review proposed modifications, as drafted by Mike Dean (ref. discussion at the last call, 2012.12.04) ... (discussion postponed to the next call!)
  • 3.2 Announcements & Reports
  • Various members making brief reports on relevant events and activities
    • upcoming Ontology Summit 2013 ... [MichaelGruninger / PeterYim]
      • (pre-launch) community brainstorm and planning - Thu 2012.12.13 - starting 9:30am PST / 12:30pm EST / 6:30pm CET / 17:30 GMT/UTC
      • first organizing committee meeting - Fri 2012.12.14 - starting 8:00am PST / 11:00am EST / 5:00pm CET / 16:00 GMT/UTC
      • Ontology Summit 2013 Launch Event - Thu 2013.01.17 - starting 9:30am PST / 12:30pm EST / 6:30pm CET / 17:30 GMT/UTC
      • the meeting discussed how we can engage from the perspective of OOR - actually, it jives well with the recently establish strategy and tactics for OOR
    • Ken Baclawski reported on his recent meeting with people at W3C, and the potential to start an OData-driven "community group," where OOR would come into the picture to provide the repository for the common entities
    • Mike Dean reported on last week's SOCoP workshop - a Vo Camp activity
  • 3.4 upcoming activities / virtual-session planning
    • Scheduled:
    • To be scheduled:
      • OOR Architecture & API Workshop-XV - Co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Todd Schneider
      • OOR Infrastructure-II - Chair: Peter P. Yim - pending: possibly after our next update on the ncbo-appliance vm
      • need to be rescheduled: 2012_10_23 - Tuesday: "Getting OOR Development Going - Take-IX" Workshop - Chair: Mike Dean & Michael Grüninger
        • Michael will try to engage Till Mossakowski, and hopefully, through this session, start getting more integration between the Ontohub and the OOR activities
      • ...
  • 3.5 Member activities updates - Review: members and OOR-related activities (2012.07.10) ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • OOR-sandbox status
    • code repository status
    • NCBO - BioPortal updates
    • NEU - Gatekeeper, ...
    • Raytheon-BBN - federation, ...
    • UToronto - COLORE
    • Bremen - Ontohub
    • Ryerson
    • Mathet
    • SOCoP_INTEROP - SOCoP-OOR
    • DataONE
    • NeOn (KMi and STL)
    • ONKI
    • KBSI
    • MMI
    • Use Cases
    • Architecture
    • API
    • Gatekeeping
    • production OOR instance
    • SIO
    • ICOM / DERI
    • content drive
    • Funding

most of the content below are inherited from the previous call(s), and will be edited/updated as this meeting progresses ...

4. References:

4.1 Discussion: tactically, what shall we be doing differently in the next 6 to 12 months

  • Focused discussion on the tactics and action plans that will help put the recently refined OOR Strategy in place

... to provide synergies for all.

4.2 Setting the metrics - what does "success" look like

  • 4.3 Action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies) ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • (discussion 2011.05.06):
      • an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all
    • All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively
      • in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!?
    • (discussion 2011.08.07) ...
      • ref. IAOA Committee and SIG session at FOIS (2012.07.25) discussion:
        • IAOA Ontology Registry and Repository Committee to put focus on contents
        • getting FOIS papers to be submitted with cited ontologies and their metadata, and have those ontologies hosted on OOR
  • 4.5 OOR instances OOR: status update and coordination ... (deferred discussion of this item)
  • OOR: sandbox, devbox, test-instance, socop, colore, ontohub, ornl-daac, mmi-orr, new ncbo-appliance, ... status update and coordination
  • 4.6 Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • we need a gatekeeping/policy module in place - [KenBaclawski]

5. IM Chat Transcript captured during the session

see raw transcript [ here].

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

Chat transcript from room: oor_20121211

2012-12-11 GMT-08:00 [PST]

[07:28] Peter P. Yim: Welcome to the

OpenOntologyRepository: OOR Team Conference Call - Tue 2012_12_11

session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2012_12_11

List of attendees: Michael Grüninger (chair), Ken Baclawski, Mike Dean, Peter P. Yim (scribe), Todd Schneider

Regrets: Leo Obrst, Bob Smith

Proceedings:

[07:28] anonymous morphed into Ken Baclawski

[07:34] Todd Schneider: What session tomorrow?

[07:36] Michael Grüninger: strawman for Ontology Summit 2013 tracks

1. Dimensions of Ontology Evaluation

- addresses notions of verification, validation, quality, ranking, ...

2. Evaluation and the Ontology Application Framework

- looks at the problem of ontology evaluation from the perspective of

the applications that use the ontologies. This Framework was one of the

outcomes of Ontology Summit 2011.

3. Best Practices in Ontological Analysis

- focuses on the ontology evaluation based on the ontology itself, such

as logical criteria (consistency, completeness, modularity) and

ontological analysis techniques (e.g. OntoClean).

4. Requirements for Ontologies

- how do we specify the requirements against which we evaluate

ontologies?

5. Lessons from Software Engineering

- what are best practices for evaluation that we can adapt,

particularly with distributed open-source software development?

[07:37] Todd Schneider: How does an ontology lifecycle differ from a system or engineering lifecycle?

[07:41] Peter P. Yim: let's ask: what does OOR has to offer, and what can OOR gain from this upcoming Summit?

[07:44] Michael Grüninger: OOR can give a presentation during one of the sessions on Best Practices

[07:47] Michael Grüninger: OOR spin -- if you want to find good ontologies, look in an OOR instance, because

OOR enforces best practices through the implementation of ontology evaluation techniques

[07:49] Michael Grüninger: Can OOR become the github and Source Forge for the ontology community?

[07:52] Mike Dean: There was a series of EON workshops on Ontology (and tool) evaluation,

e.g. http://km.aifb.kit.edu/ws/eon2006/. It might be worth reviewing their results and perhaps encouraging

some of participants (mostly in Europe) to participate in the summit.

[08:01] Michael Grüninger: Contact MariCarmenSuarezFigueroa and possibly York Sure as Track Champions

[08:02] Michael Grüninger: Also, SofiaPinto is a possibility

[08:03] Michael Grüninger: Enrico Motta

[08:11] Ken Baclawski: The sodata community wiki is at http://www.w3.org/community/sodata/

[08:27] Michael Grüninger: OOR-related hands-on event at the Symposium

[08:28] Todd Schneider: Ken, how fast can you code?

[08:39] Peter P. Yim: an audacious idea: extreme programming of "evaluation" features onto OOR

(ontohub? colore? bioportal? oor-sandbox?) culminating into a integrated demo at the symposium?

[08:44] Peter P. Yim: (as most of us would otherwise be "double-booked") we might consider not doing

standalone OOR meetings, but merging the OOR discourse into OntologySummit2013-related discussions/sessions,

while the Summit is in session. We'll try to figure this out a bit more as the Summit program becomes clearer.

[08:39] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 8:35am PST --

[08:40] List of attendees: Ken Baclawski, Michael Grüninger, Mike Dean, Peter P. Yim, Todd Schneider, anonymous

-- end in-session chat-transcript --

6. (Other) Action items:

  • ...

7. Any Other Business:

  • Michael Grüninger / Peter P. Yim et al. - we need to re-assess the regular timing of the OOR team meeting, in view of people's (e.g. Michael's) new academic semester schedule, and the tremendous time a lot of us will likely be putting into the Ontology Summit 2013 starting imminently, and until mid to end April 2013.
    • Let's review after the Ontology Summit 2013 program becomes clearer.
    • possibility is to merge the OOR discussion with related summit discussions

8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Next Meetings:
    • 2013_01_15 - first meeting in 2013 - Tuesday: OOR Project Team Member Conference Call - Tuesday: OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_01_15 (tentative!)
      • (as most of us would otherwise be "double-booked") we might consider not doing standalone OOR meetings, but merging the OOR discourse into OntologySummit2013-related discussions/sessions, while the Summit is in session. We'll try to figure this out a bit more as the Summit program becomes clearer.
      • note: we have decided to move the start earlier by one hour (just like today's and the last meeting) - future OOR meetings will continue to start at: 7:30am PST / 10:30am EST / 4:30pm CET / 15:30 GMT/UTC
    • ... please mark your calendars and come!
  • Call adjourned at: 8:35 am PST

--

notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2012.12.11-10:13am PST

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.

Resources

  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:
    • 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: John Bateman & Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20
    • 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: Elisa Kendall on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03
    • 2012_07_17 - Tuesday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-3: "Standardisation Coordination and Ontology Repositories" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_07_17
    • 2012_09_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-4: "Common Logic" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_09_20
  • the OOR-IPR mini-series:
    • 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: George Strawn - Chair: Peter P. Yim - Panelists: JamieClark, John Wilbanks, Bruce Perens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09
    • 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: Mark Musen - Panelists: Cameron Ross, Alan Rector, John F. Sowa, Bruce Perens, John Wilbanks, Peter P. Yim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16
    • 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: Leo Obrst - Panelists: Peter P. Yim, Mike Dean, Bruce Perens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30



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