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OpenOntologyRepository: Project Team Member (regular planning & admin) Conference Call - Tue 2013_09_03

This is a regular OOR Team meeting. The last time we did OOR planning (specifically: "Strategy & Tactics") was in Jun-2013. We will be pick up from those discussions and try to use this meeting to work up plans and administrative details for the OOR Team for the rest of 2013.

Conference Call Details

  • Date: Tuesday, 3-Sep-2013
  • Start 7:00am PDT / 10:00am EDT / 4:00pm CEST / 3:00pm BST / 1400 UTC
  • Expected Call Duration: ~1.0 hours
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  • Please note that this session may be recorded, and if so, the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content, along with the proceedings of the call to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy.

Attendees

  • Expecting:
    • (please add yourself to the list above if you are a member of the community, or, rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com> with the event title/date and your name and affiliation)
  • Regrets:
    • ...

Agenda Ideas

  • Review OOR priorities and focus
    • action plans - short/medium term
    • action plans - medium/long term
  • scheduling of OOR Events for the rest of 2013
  • ... (add yours)

Agenda & Proceedings

Archives:

1. Meeting called to order:

  • Michael Grüninger took the chair and welcome everyone
  • Peter P. Yim volunteered to collate the notes, but urged everyone to capture their thoughts and document them on the chat board, as usual.
  • review and adopt agenda
  • Urgent items or quick announcements

2. Roll Call:

  • welcome and intro of new member(s) (if applicable)

3. Key discussion:

Ref: our list of "Priorities & Most Critical Tasks At Hand" - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OpenOntologyRepository#nid17YH - and, picking up from our last "Revisiting the OOR Strategy and Tactics - II" discussion - OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_06_18, specifically,

  • there is general consensus we would change to a more bottom-up approach (rather than the "top-down" approach we have been taking) ...   
    • we will encourage each oor node project to develop (colore, ontohub, socop, oor public instance, etc.) on their own, and coordinate the "team" effort through the use of a shared set of metadata, API and the UI (e.g. how people download (or even upload) ontologies, etc.)
    • The key is to ensure that each of the ontology repository projects in OOR are interoperable from the software perspective, uniform in the GUI, and they use a shared approach to ontology metadata
    • initially (prior to federation mechanisms being in place) we will make <oor.net> to be an ontology registry, which then links to the ontologies in the actual ontology repository where the ontology is described
    • actions will be focused on developing three things (hopefully within the next 3 months): the set of metadata, the API, and some shared thoughts on the UI
    • after that, we will focus on building up content with each OOR node tackling the domain(s) they are best with, and put in a concerted effort towards OOR adoption

3.1 Review OOR priorities and focus

  • action plans - short/medium term
    • our input to the upcoming Thu 2013.09.19 "OntologySummit2014 Topic Brainstorm" session
      • can we start that meeting at 11:30am EDT, instead of the regular 12:30pm EDT? ... (ppy: I am starting my travel that afternoon)
        • All: ok, let's do that one
  • action plans - medium/long term
    • collaboration and synergies with IAOA
    • keeping OOR relevant
    • ... and invigorated

3.2 scheduling of OOR Events for the rest of 2013

  • Events planned/scheduled so far ...
    • ... on "alignment"
    • a "community session on "Meta-Ontology for Ontology Categories", involving other repository stewards hopefully, on "Ontology Categories" - ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/2013-08/msg00002.html - still need to fix a date
    • the regular (monthly) OOR Team meeting for planning and admin discussions - 1st Tuesday of each month
    • the monthly Hackathon sessions - 2nd Tuesday of each month
    • a session on "common UI for OOR instances" ...?
    • (periodic) workshop on metadata
    • (periodic) session on architecture
    • (periodic) session on strategy and tactics

most of the content below are inherited from the previous call(s), and will be edited/updated as this meeting progresses ...

  • 3.5 Member activities updates - Review: members and OOR-related activities (list from 2013.05.21) ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • OOR-sandbox status
    • code repository status
    • NCBO - BioPortal updates
    • NEU - Gatekeeper, ...
    • Raytheon-BBN - federation, ...
    • UToronto - COLORE
    • Ryerson (BartGajderowicz will join MichaelGruninger's team at U of Toronto soon)
    • Bremen - Ontohub
    • Mathet
    • SOCoP_INTEROP - SOCoP-OOR
    • DataONE
    • NeOn (KMi and STL)
    • ONKI
    • KBSI
    • MMI
    • Use Cases
    • Architecture
    • API
    • Metadata
    • Gatekeeping
    • production OOR instance
    • SIO
    • ICOM / DERI
    • content drive
    • Funding

4. Prior Discussions:

4.1 Discussion: tactically, what shall we be doing differently in the next 6 to 12 months

  • Focused discussion on the tactics and action plans that will help put the recently refined OOR Strategy in place

... to provide synergies for all.

4.2 Setting the metrics - what does "success" look like

4.3 Action planning for "content drive" (getting people to upload ontologies) ... (deferred discussion of this item)

  • (discussion 2011.05.06):
    • an adopted Architecture & API is definitely crucial, but that's not all
  • All team members are encouraged to mull over how we can get to that state effectively
    • in particular ... how do we make this a "successful" community-driven, open source project!?
  • (discussion 2011.08.07) ...
    • ref. IAOA Committee and SIG session at FOIS (2012.07.25) discussion:
      • IAOA Ontology Registry and Repository Committee to put focus on contents
      • getting FOIS papers to be submitted with cited ontologies and their metadata, and have those ontologies hosted on OOR
  • 4.5 OOR instances OOR: status update and coordination ... (deferred discussion of this item)
  • OOR: sandbox, devbox, test-instance, socop, colore, ontohub, ornl-daac, mmi-orr, new ncbo-appliance, ... status update and coordination
  • 4.6 Getting us to a stage when we can run a OOR-production box ... (deferred discussion of this item)
    • we need a gatekeeping/policy module in place - [KenBaclawski]

5. IM Chat Transcript captured during the session

see raw transcript here.

(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)

Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.

-- begin in-session chat-transcript --

Chat transcript from room: oor_20130903

2013-09-03 GMT-08:00 [PDT]

[7:02] Peter P. Yim: .

OpenOntologyRepository: Project Team Member (regular planning & admin) Conference Call Tue 2013_09_03

session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2013_09_03

Attendees: Michael Grüninger (chair), Peter P. Yim (scribe), Bob Smith, DanielCoutoVale, Ken Baclawski,

Mike Bennett, Mike Dean, Till Mossakowski, ToddSchneider.

Proceedings

[7:00] anonymous morphed into Todd Schneider

[7:04] Peter P. Yim: == Michael Grüninger takes the chair ...

[7:04] List of attendees: Bob Smith, Ken Baclawski, Michael Grüninger, Mike Dean, Peter P. Yim, Todd Schneider, anonymous

[7:08] anonymous morphed into DanielCoutoVale

[7:08] DanielCoutoVale: I'm also online

[7:11] Peter P. Yim: === ideas for Ontology Summit 2014 topic (synergistic with OOR)

[7:13] Michael Grüninger: I think that the topic "The Ontology Spectrum Revisited: from CL and

OntoIOp to Linked Data and Schema.org" would align quite well with the OOR, illustrating the

comprehensive scope of the existing ontology repositories

[7:14] Michael Grüninger: Federation and Integration is also aligned with some of our objectives,

particularly in the relationships between ontologies within a repository, as well as relationships

among different repositories

[7:20] Michael Grüninger: Possible topic -- How do I find the right ontology for me to use in my application?

[7:26] Todd Schneider: Evaluation of ontologies has a bearing on OOR and we've discussed how to

support it in the past.

[7:28] Peter P. Yim: maybe we can discuss here how OOR can be relevant to "Big Data" (or, maybe,

specifically, dataset vocabularies) ... so the Ontology Summit can push Ontology's potential

contribution in the "Big Data" space

[7:28] Peter P. Yim: === positioning OOR in the OntologyBasedStandards initiative

[7:28] Michael Grüninger: Upcoming sessions for the Ontology-based Standards series:

1. Ontology-based Standards in the area of Quantities and Units of Measure [PeterYim, FrankOlken?]

2. Ontology-based Standards in Geospatial Domains [TaraAthan, Gary Berg-Cross]

3. Ontology-based Standards in Manufacturing [BobYoung, Michael Grüninger, RichardMartin]

4. Ontology-based Financial Standards (e.g. ISO 15944, FIBO) [MikeBennett, BillMcCarthy, ElieAbiLahoud]

5. Standards and Ontology Metadata [ElisaKendall, TerryLongstreth]

6. Ontologies for Social Networks [KenBaclawski, EricChan]

7. How ontologies can help with the formal specification of the natural language standards [SimonSpero, Richard Martin, Mark Johnson, KenBaclawski]

8. Synthesis and harmonization of the ontologies and standards presented in the miniseries [???]

[7:30] Todd Schneider: [ref. Ken's verbal comment that there are existing work that extracts

ontologies from the written (natural language) standards] Ken, can you provide an example?

[7:35] Ken Baclawski: @Todd: OASIS ICOM

[7:35] Michael Grüninger: Have a joint session on the OOR perspective on Ontology-based Standards /

This will include a summary of the standards-related ontologies that we could upload to a

repository. [This session can be stood up during one of the OOR Tuesday meeting slots, as the

OntologyBasedStandards mini-series event schedule (slated for the Thursday Ontolog event slot) is

already very full.

[7:36] Michael Grüninger: We will also invite participants of the Ontolog series to contribute their

standards-related ontologies to one of the repositories. This invitation will be made in the first

session of the mini-series

[7:38] Ken Baclawski: My students will be developing projects that will be relevant to ontology-based

standards and it would be great if they could participate in a session.

[7:37] Peter P. Yim: === collaboration and synergies with IAOA

[7:40] Till Mossakowski: Call for submission for the FOIS competition:

http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~till/fois

[7:43] Till Mossakowski: I have lost my Skype connection

[7:44] Peter P. Yim: Till / Michael / Peter: we could use this FOIS competition as a use case to drive

the requirements and coordinate the OOR implementations so various instances of OOR can be ready to

support this competition

[7:48] Till Mossakowski: ontology of categories that we will use for Ontohub:

https://raw.github.com/ontohub/OOR_Ontohub_API/master/Domain_Fields_Extension.owl

[7:51] Michael Grüninger: @Till: Will October 1 be a good date for a session on the ontology categories?

[7:52] Till Mossakowski: unfortunately not

[7:52] Michael Grüninger: @Till: What about October 8 or 15?

[7:53] Till Mossakowski: have some problems here in Warsaw to find a place with WLAN *and* electric current

[7:53] Till Mossakowski: October 8 should work

[7:59] Till Mossakowski: I won't make it on Sept. 17th (on my way back from WoMo), but Daniel will present Ontohub

[7:58] DanielCoutoVale: danielvale [at] uni-bremen.de

[8:03] Peter P. Yim: === Scheduling - [consensus] we will go by the following session plans ...

[8:03] Peter P. Yim: Tue 2013.09.10 - OOR Hackathon-IV - chair: Till & Ken

[8:04] Peter P. Yim: Tue 2013.09.17 - OOR Common UI - chair: Ken with opening brief from Daniel

[8:04] Peter P. Yim: No OOR event on Tue 2013.09.24

[8:06] Peter P. Yim: Tue 2013.10.01 - regular OOR Team planning & admin meeting

[8:07] Peter P. Yim: Tue 2013.10.08 - "Meta-Ontology for Ontology Categories" - co-chair: Till & Michael

[8:09] Peter P. Yim: -- session ended: 8:02am PDT --

-- end in-session chat-transcript --

6. Action items:

...

7. Any Other Business:

  • Those at this meeting agreed that we will start the Thu 2013.09.19 "OntologySummit2014 Topic Brainstorm Session" at 11:30am EDT / 1530 UTC (an hour earlier than the usual 12:30pm EDT / 1630 UTC)
  • PPY: I will be traveling on Tue 2013.09.24; if we do have a meeting, someone else will have to coordinate, run and record that (I can make the infrastructure available)
    • It was agreed that no OOR meeting/event will be scheduled on Tue 2013.09.24

8. Schedule Next Meeting & Adjourn:

  • Next Meetings:
    • a consensus was reached on 2013.06.18 to have our regular conf call start-time (until further modified) at: Tuesdays 7:00am PDT / 10:00am EDT / 4:00 pm CEST / 1400 UTC
    • Next Meeting: Tue 2013_09_10 - the "OOR-Ontohub-Gatekeeper API" Hackathon-IV "Alignment" Session - co-chairs: Ken Baclawski & Till Mossakowski
    • also, see above
    • ... please mark your calendars and make sure you can come!
  • Call adjourned at: 8:02 am PDT

--

notes taken by: Peter P. Yim / 2013.09.03-11:57am PDT

All participants, please review and edit to enhance accuracy and granularity of the documented proceedings.

Resources

  • the Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series:
    • 2011_10_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-1: Introducing the ISO NP 17347 "Ontology Integration and Interoperability (OntoIOp)" Standardization Effort - Co-chairs: John Bateman & Michael Grüninger - ConferenceCall_2011_10_20
    • 2011_11_03 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-2: Invited Speaker: Elisa Kendall on "Ontology-Related Metadata Standards" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2011_11_03
    • 2012_07_17 - Tuesday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-3: "Standardisation Coordination and Ontology Repositories" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_07_17
    • 2012_09_20 - Thursday: Joint IAOA-OOR-Ontolog "Ontologies and Standards" mini-series session-4: "Common Logic" - Co-chairs: Michael Grüninger & John Bateman - ConferenceCall_2012_09_20
  • the OOR-IPR mini-series:
    • 2010_09_09 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-1: an exposition on relevant IPR regimes - Keynote speaker: George Strawn - Chair: Peter P. Yim - Panelists: JamieClark, John Wilbanks, Bruce Perens - ConferenceCall_2010_09_09
    • 2010_09_16 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-2: what are the IPR issues relating to open ontology repositories (and ontologies in general)? - Chair: Mark Musen - Panelists: Cameron Ross, Alan Rector, John F. Sowa, Bruce Perens, John Wilbanks, Peter P. Yim - ConferenceCall_2010_09_16
    • 2010_09_30 - Thursday: Joint OOR-Ontolog-NCBO-CC-IAOA-OASIS Panel Discussion - "IPR issues in Ontology and the OOR" session-3: discussion and consensus on licensing arrangements for the OOR Initiative, and positions we might take on related IPR issues - chair: Leo Obrst - Panelists: Peter P. Yim, Mike Dean, Bruce Perens, JamieClark - ConferenceCall_2010_09_30



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